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Alcohol self help thread II
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im sorry lewt are you cured? You once said you tell yourself each day your not going to drink you still have to fight alcoholism. Plus which i dont think anyone can be `cured` i think each person within themselves find a way not to drink. That could be through aa or another form. Each method involves self help and self will but i have never known of a cure for alcoholism.0
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brodev wrote:I have never heard of this in my life and I have dealt with some very low bottom people. Is this something that the doctor said in front of someone else or is it something that your friend's mother said that the doctor said?
no, the doctor said in front of her daughter. in fact, she was in hospital recently and the family were asked to bring her a small amount of alcohol each day. something to do with a shock to her liver or something, i cant remember the exact details cos it was a few years back and i was really shocked by it :eek:☆ §ügÅr cØÅTëÐ pØï§Øn ☆
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EthelBloggs wrote:no, the doctor said in front of her daughter. in fact, she was in hospital recently and the family were asked to bring her a small amount of alcohol each day. something to do with a shock to her liver or something, i cant remember the exact details cos it was a few years back and i was really shocked by it :eek:
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lewt wrote:and your cured now?
:rolleyes: Well and truely cured.
Honestly I don't know if I could drink as a "normal" person.
I've taken the choice to not even try, because what I have isn't worth the risk.
I might not have been an alcoholic, just someone who drinks a lot with a problem, can't think who said that:D
If I can get around my phobia, aggoraphobia or just scared or groups issue, I will go to AA. Not because I think I need the help, I might! But because I might be able to help others.
What was the success rate of AA quoted a while ago, 10% I think was said.
So as I've been saying again and again, what works for one does not work for others and you banging on about how AA is the only way is a load of tripe.
So now I'm taking my football and saying good bye to this thread for today, so I can get away from the petty norrow mindness of some.
I'll come back tomorrow and see what it is like then.
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ok al, i dont particuly think your right and peple will learn for them selves. its the programm of aa that works not just going to meetings. what ive been trying to say is that the program works for people who are prepared to do the work. councilling and drinks dairys didnt work for me and a great deal of people ive met if i only went to aa meetings im fairly sure i'd drink when i got home from meetings? whats the sucess of this bored? the stats from aa are from people who have walked through the doors i think. so many people come once never to be seen again. its also the nature of the illness that it tell people we dont have it. or we can get away with having one.
jayne i aint cured but i've recovered form the seemly hopeless state of body and mind that is alcoholism. through pratising the steps everyday. i aint drank to today and im pretty sure i wont tomorrow. how you doing?
All, i'll be avaible on PM if advice is needed as this board just winds me up so im going to stay away. and speak to people at the meetings to pass on what ive learned and also learn more. sadly this thread is conter productive to me and i find it hard to be spirtaul with some people. see ya good luck.If i upset you don't stress, never forget that god aint finished with me yet.0 -
lewt i was not disrespecting you in anyway shape or form and i am glad aa has helped you and that is all that matters. All i was trying to say is its about state of mind and individuality, what suits one does not suit another.
I am sure that you would agree 6mths is a long time and al has done well. You cannot in all fairness disagree with this statement. I was merely debating the topic of choice and ones right to make that choice. I am truly saddened that you should find this counter productive. I personally would hate to see you or al leave the thread. I love the art of debate especially if someone disagrees with me:)0 -
thank you all, it means a lot to have people to talk to about this.
he hasnt tried AA he feels the meetings are stupid but personally i dont see how he can say that when he hasnt been. He's going to the drop in clinic tomorrow to get assessed. I spose at least he is actively doing it himself rather than either having me or the courts pressure him into it.
I try not to let him get away with anything i mean i dont allow him to drink in my home but then when he goes out i cant stop him drinking and he just doesnt know when to stop. if i ring him up and say c'mon you've had enough i know what the answer would be and it would end in off
i honestly dont know what i can do to help. i thought being there to support him through it would help but now im doubting it. he is out at the moment and i know he's sat in a pub but what can i do
if i asked him to come on here he wouldnt know where to start, lets say he's not the brightest crayon in the box
i will definately tell him that i have asked for some advice on here and read out what you have all said. he might actually try and have a go if he thinks he can talk to people in the same situation.
again thank youIt only seems kinky the first time.. :A0 -
crispeater wrote:I try not to let him get away with anything i mean i dont allow him to drink in my home but then when he goes out i cant stop him drinking and he just doesnt know when to stop. if i ring him up and say c'mon you've had enough i know what the answer would be and it would end in off
i honestly dont know what i can do to help. i thought being there to support him through it would help but now im doubting it. he is out at the moment and i know he's sat in a pub but what can i do
Does he have a place to go, other than your house?
Ringing him when he's drinking is worthless, if he can go out and get drunk, then stopping him drinking in the house is worthless.“Pleasure of love lasts but a moment, pain of love lasts a lifetime.”0 -
For goodness sake lewt, no one is saying AA is not the answer, no one is saying this thread is the answer. In fact I don't think anyone would say this thread is any where near the answer. Where as AA is probably more so.
If you don't want to accept other peoples choices like you expect them to accept yours, then that is your choice.
Your ability to judge has got right up my nose, as you've probably noticed.
So I'm going to take my own advice, for once, and put you on my ignore list, until I calm down.
Where ever anyone finds the power to not drink, is fine by me.0
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