Alcohol self help thread II

beer2006

daisy10 wrote:

hi i have absolutly no idea how these forums work, but am so desperate i will give it a go.
i have spent the last 3 hours serching for help or just someone to talk to about my alcoholic mum. I have phoned alanon and the person i got put through to was terrible, i also phoned the samaritans and had pretty much the same thing.
I have also spent all night looking for forums but it must be one of those days for me.
can anyone tell me where i can access decent support at this time of night or is it unheard of

See fg's post http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=3636428&postcount=4866
otherwise, come back tomorrow morning.

We shall do our best for you then.

suffolkb

Try Alanon again. We`re alkies,not trained councellors and you will probably get a better one next time. You could also attend one of the AA open meetings. Good luck in finding help.

beer2006

To anyone that hasn't noticed, there is a thread on the health board to give the very sad news that mich has passed away.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=321633

Quasar

I don't "belong" to this thread in the sense that, well, I have no need of it so to speak, but I knew Micheleen well and we PMd often. I just cannot believe this sad news, and still hope it's all a dreadful mistake.

Al_Mac

Thanks for pointing that out beer. Shame.

jayne.doe

Hi guys i didnt know your friend mich but its really sad. He must have been a nice man because he was so well respected not only on this thread but on the forum as a whole.

crispeater

i hope you dont mind me butting in on your thread but i need some advice.

my childrens father has been battling with alcohol since he was 17 (he's now 35) he has been in detox and came out and drank, he's done walk in sessions and mixed with the people that want to fail and failed himself. he is very much a follower rather than a leader.
lately he has been having a lot of suicidal thoughts so i told him to go to his GP for some help with depression and then deal with the drink. i thought that maybe him feeling so low would make him drink more?
anyway his GP said that he would do nothing for his depression until he sorted his drinking out and gave him the days for a drop in clinic!
he has mentioned that he wants to go on some tablets called antibuse which make you sick when you drink? but the gp wont prescribe them which i can understand that should be from the substance misuse place.
but my question is after my long winded message is this.. is the gp right in not treating his depression because of his drink problem. I'm lost at what i can do to help him. He has made another appointment with the dr for a day that i can go with him as this just doesnt seem right.

any advice/help/guidance greatfully received

beer2006

Hi crispeater

You are not butting in, this thread is here to try to help anyone involved with alcohol, no matter how they are involved.

It can be a vicious circle, you drink because you are depressed and get depressed because you drink. Everyone is different however.

We can't give advice on medical matters, I would suspect that the doctor should know what he is talking about.
If you feel concerned, why don't you get another doctors opinion. You are right to go with him.

Somehow the circle has to be broken, you say basically he doesn't want to stop drinking, sorry if thats not right, but thats how it sounds.
Does he live with you?

crispeater

Thanks beer2006.

at first about 3 years ago he didnt want to give up drinking, i believe he felt he should because (a) i had him charged with assault & (b) we had a daughter. but now he seems to be panicing about his drinking, its as if he has just woke up to the fact that he is killing himself slowly. sometimes he drinks so much on a saturday he will sleep until monday and obviously be completely delirious (sp) and you cant wake him for love nor money. i even threw a bucket of water on him an he didnt flinch. the 1st time it happened i called an ambulance but there was nothing wrong except for too much beer!

he is staying with me at the moment as im trying to help him, for his sake and our childrens.
he has also been told that he cant completely stop drinking straight away as this would throw his body into shock..? is this right or is he trying to pull a fast one on me! (heavens forbid)

beer2006

I have heard of the not being able to stop drinking straight away, but I don't know if its true. Someone will.

The truth is, he will drink for as long as you allow it, if he can't/ doesn't want to stop himself.
It sounds like he hasn't had a big enough shock to make him really want to stop. Does he struggle to not drink, or is it a thing that just goes on all the time?

Come back, because others will be along to give their take on it.