Alcohol self help thread II

Al_Mac

Last night Mrs Mac and a friend had half a bottle of wine, left half, it went down the sink Only little demons here, just need a little slap evey now and then

lewt

Some1 brought me a wine stop once a few years ago it was the most pointless present i've ever recived

lewt

Good luck feeling good.

beer2006

feelinggood wrote:

I'm here, not that that is much use
How are you doing?
I've made a promise to a friend that I will not drink alone anymore, and I'm going to try and only drink once a week, and will alternate drinks and apple juice. I'm feeling pretty confident, one day at a time hey.

Hi FG
Sorry wasn't ignoring you, I logged off after I posted that to make something to eat and vegged out in front of the tv all night.

Sounds good what you are planning, I hope you manage it.;)

I'm pretty good thanks, not quite where I want to be yet, but miles away from where I was. I do still have a drink now and then, but at least I don't have the problem of drinking when I don't want to, (that doesn't quite sound right, but its better than it sounds I think) like it used to take me away and demand I drink on a night or day and now I just don't have to do it. The amount of times I drank when I knew I had to get up early, or even do anything the next day is crazy, that hasn't happened that I can remember, since the new thread was started.

Like the wine Al
Hi ac and lewt :wave:

lewt

suffolkb wrote:

Welcome to the thread.If you can simply reduce your alcohol consumption, then good for you.If you are an alcoholic,then I doubt if it will be possible.
In the Times today www.timesonline.co.uk/mensstyle there is an article from an addiction therapist who claims a success rate of 84% compared to AA`s rate of <10%. A tad expensive at $60,000 for a 30 day course though. I think I`ll try and order his book from the library.

where did you get the AA 10% stat from? i know a low figure is counted for the number of people how walk into the felloship and stay sober till death. however i belive no1 can "fail" if they are honest with themselves and do everything suggested.

it's just people tend to go as a last resort as we alcoholics have a lurking notion that we will someday be able to controll our drinking. we must admit defeat.

i cant count the ammont of time i got drunk and did insanly tragic things only to wake up and do it again either the next day or less than a week later. i used to truley convince myself it would be different and it maybe one or two times then it would all happen again and worse. i was insane..

I tryed councilling once a week where i was given a drinks diary(green light for me) i thought well if they say it's ok to drink i will. but i could never have just one,only drink beer, alturnate soft drinks, only weekends, only weekdays only have one whisky of brandy before bed. i tryed the lot. detox off the doctor. that was fantasc in my insane mind eyes no hangover!(withdrawal as i now know) i did a detox in a private hospital for a week which told me i drank cause i felt empty. no solution but they sure pointed out the problem well enough. £4 grand that cost me and i left there with a big bag full of benzo's. it started agin the same day.

I hope peple dont have to go through what i did to realise there's only really one way to get sober and be happy and content with it

I did a share at a meeting last night in front of 40 or so people which is my story of recovery which i'm hoping to post soon as it was recorded.

Any1 who thinks they have a problem with alcoho; should really just summon the same courage it takes to deal with the withdrawal from hell and get them selfs to a meeting. there will be people there just like you although we dont think that at the time i thought i was speacail and different and no1 had ever had to deal with what i did. till i got to the fellowship. i'll leave it there tonight folks pm me if you need help. Lewt X

suffolkb

Lewt - The 10% figure is what the therapist in the report claims. I think it`s much higher than that but I can`t prove it. He claims that he can `cure` alcoholism and I really think that it can`t be cured. All we can do is not drink - we are still alcoholics.
Well done on your share. Did you know that you were going to?. Like most,I was pressganged when I went to a new meeting and had no idea what to say. All I could talk about was the fear that I used to feel all the time. Lots of people came up afterwards and told me that they used to feel the same. I went to rehab twice. The first one just kept asking what feelings I drank on. My feelings had nothing to do with it. If I was awake,I was drinking. The second made me go to AA as a condition of treatment and I doubt if I`d still be sober if I hadn`t gone. I was lucky that I used to live in the London area and there are over 600 meetings a week to choose from. I went to one in the West End at 7.30 am in a church. I couldn`t find the way in so asked all the drinkers outside. They were waiting for the nuns to give them breakfast. These guys had slept outside all night and they wished me luck. (I`m crying now as I remember this - this disease tries to take everything from you).
Good luck to everyone who is struggling out there. Help is available. Please look for it.

beer2006

lewt wrote:

it's just people tend to go as a last resort as we alcoholics have a lurking notion that we will someday be able to controll our drinking. we must admit defeat.

i cant count the ammont of time i got drunk and did insanly tragic things only to wake up and do it again either the next day or less than a week later. i used to truley convince myself it would be different and it maybe one or two times then it would all happen again and worse. i was insane..

After reading that I wonder if I am fooling myself by saying, I still have a drink, yet I have it under control?
I really don't know, I know the amount I have cut down is great, don't get me wrong, but I still seem to have the need all the time, just satisfy it on less occasions.

I'm sitting here this morning thinking I have the opportunity to go on a all day bender, not that I'm going to, I'm really not, but I'm in a bit of a thinky mood.
A bit lonely, a bit washed out after having two days from hell with work, absolutely knackered from the same.
So I sit here thinking, I know I'll buy something on ebay to cheer me up, do I have some empty thing that needs to be filled by something bad? I mean I can afford it, but I don't need to buy anything.
So no alcohol (even though its a rare chance to have an all day bender and just follow the racing and stuff) no ebay buying.......... I keep wondering what else my horrible little mind will come up with.

Am I alone in this, having like an empty space that needs something to fill it.

Good posts suffolk and lewt btw, I'm sure all here value your experience.

ac

your missing the last jigsaw peace !!!!!!!

thats wot the alcohol use to fill..... and now theres a void...

tell me if im wrong.......??? (but doubt it......im an alcoholic....
we are always right;) )

xx

beer2006

ac wrote:

your missing the last jigsaw peace !!!!!!!

thats wot the alcohol use to fill..... and now theres a void...

tell me if im wrong.......??? (but doubt it......im an alcoholice....
we are always right;) )

xx

Mmmm your probably right, wish I could buy expanding foam to fill it or something
Trouble is, nothing else seems exciting (? ok we know its not, but I can't think of anything else to call it) enough to fill the gap. Maybe I need to start a extreme sport, chicken racing or something :rolleyes:

edit, anyway ac, nice to see you, how are you geting on?

ac

lol @ beer xx

do you find you dont have these thoughtds much if you keep busy ?

i find that if my days is as busy as possible then i dont have time to sit down...
and then those thoughts dont get into my head.....well not as much

other people fill the void by doing the steps or reading the books..

but you still have to find time for you xxx