Gave dog back to breeder, refusing to give money back

mattuk80

Frugalista wrote: »

And I will stand corrected if it is proven that the breeder is in the wrong, but so far, it appears that the OP has not spoken to her directly and has merely gone off "half cocked" :rolleyes:.

Frugalista, I though I'd check the forum one more time to see if there had been any useful comments. I see you have taken an enthusiastic and comprehensive interest to this thread and made a few "interesting" points. Regarding your request for clarification. I at no point have spoke to the breeder or her friend who own the stud dog used for the breeding and who my mother and father spoke to except for "hello" when assisting my mother return the dog to the breeders friend.

My mother who has been stressed and emotional (don't think I mentioned confused, not sure whether you've just assumed that?) spoke to the breeder on Thursday when enquiring about the returning of the dog. At the point my understanding, having spoken to my mother shortly afterwards, was that she was returning the dog and the breeder had offered to refund the money (not sure if she mentioned specifically the full £500 or a partial refund) when she managed to resell it. Having returned the dog to the breeders friend as requested by the breeder as she was/is apparently going on holiday, I told my mother the main importance was her getting better and to forget about the money for a couple of weeks (I hope you're understanding so far Frugalista). The next communication was when my mother answered her mobile phone on Saturday having checked the caller display and seen it was the breeder. She was surprised it was not the breeder on the phone but her friend (the owner of the puppy's father) who said she was acting on behalf of the breeder. I assume the breeder was on holiday, obviously didn't take her phone with her? Not sure why she felt the need to ring, anyway she told my mum that the breeder did not have time to sell the dog and my mum would not be getting a refund. I know this as my mother told me later when I spoke to her (don't think she got the coneversation on tape or anything like that). No more communication since then. Frugalista - analyse what you like from the above information, but no need to ask me anymore questions as I will not be answering, a waste of my time.

Thank you everyone for your useful advice, as I posted earlier I think its best putting this down as an expensive mistake. Regards Matt

samanimals

Is this about the money or the dog.

There are lots of dogs out the that need loving homes .What does a breed matter a dog is a dog there all have feelings you have to think you could have got a dog from a rescue centre and spent that £500 pounds giving a dog that has not had the best start in life a better life.
Its not the dogs fault it was breed for money.

Please think about the dog and not the money a dogs life is priceless .

MrsE_2

Brightness wrote: »

Lowis, I beg to differ on your first comment. Any dog 'purchased' from a rescue centre is actually still the property of that rescue until its dying day and the money you hand over is merely a 'donation'!

Is that legally binding though.

Lots of posts on this thread also say breeders insist you return an animal to them if you can't keep it.

Aside from the rights & wrongs of it, when I pay £XXX for my cat, its mine. I have a duty of care to it, but its mine, not the breeders then.

pulliptears

My OH's cousin has a DD who was scared of dogs. Cousin decided that they would buy her a westie pup. The child (I say child she was 12 at the time) screamed the house down and refused to come home while the dog was there, ending up staying the night at her nans. This resulted in the poor little thing being bundled back off the breeder the next morning.

They were given half the money back. £250 for a westie overnight is some fee, but maybe they learned something from it...

Sami_Bee

pulliptears wrote: »

My OH's cousin has a DD who was scared of dogs. Cousin decided that they would buy her a westie pup. The child (I say child she was 12 at the time) screamed the house down and refused to come home while the dog was there, ending up staying the night at her nans. This resulted in the poor little thing being bundled back off the breeder the next morning.

They were given half the money back. £250 for a westie overnight is some fee, but maybe they learned something from it...

Your OH's cousin sounds like a idiot, if her DD was scared of snakes would she have gone out and bought one?!
That poor little girl (and poor little doggie)

Takoda

Matt

I have experience of this I won't post it here but I have pm'ed you. If you want help please pm me back and I'll happily share what I did with you. Don't give up just yet.

Takoda.

foreign_correspondent

pulliptears wrote: »

My OH's cousin has a DD who was scared of dogs. Cousin decided that they would buy her a westie pup. The child (I say child she was 12 at the time) screamed the house down and refused to come home while the dog was there, ending up staying the night at her nans. This resulted in the poor little thing being bundled back off the breeder the next morning.

They were given half the money back. £250 for a westie overnight is some fee, but maybe they learned something from it...

nice move, buy a child who is scared of dogs a westie...

Westies, despite their teddy bear appearance, are not known for being good with children at all, as they have low tolerance and tend to be snappy!!

I take it this was not done with a great deal of forethought or research - its funny how easily people walk into a commitment that can last for 15 years or more - longer than many marriages.

Maybe the £250 loss will make them think more carefully in future though!

bettyboop61

I have been following this thread with some interest, my dog had a litter of pups in Feb this year, she had 8 in total, I vetted all buyers to the best of my ability, making sure the people who were buying them would be home a good part of the day as these pups were sprockers ie springer/cocker cross, they are a lively dog and do need plenty of exercise, I digress here...part of the sale agreement I made with all my buyers were that they should return the pup to me if they found for some reason they were unable to cope, I was told by another breeder, I am not a breeder, that I should not refund any money, because in her words, I have reared and looked after these pups 24 hrs a day, and I have to agree there is a lot of work involved in rearing puppies, not to mention no sleep for the first 2 weeks, but I said that anyone returning the pup to me would haver got half their money back, I think that is only fair IMO, all the buyers were invited to come see their pup at anytime during the 8 weeks, this allowed me to get to know the buyers better and for them to forge a bond with their pup, in doing so I have now made 8 new friends and I am kept up to date on how all the pups are doing. I feel very sad that this breeder/breeder friend is being quite obnoxious IMO. I hope that your mum feels better soon and that this matter is resolved pleasantly for all concerned. I would not have had any trouble selling on a pup if it was returned, as I could have sold 10 times over with the amount of enquiries I got and I did have a waiting list in case someone did change their mind!

pulliptears

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

nice move, buy a child who is scared of dogs a westie...

Westies, despite their teddy bear appearance, are not known for being good with children at all, as they have low tolerance and tend to be snappy!!

I take it this was not done with a great deal of forethought or research - its funny how easily people walk into a commitment that can last for 15 years or more - longer than many marriages.

Maybe the £250 loss will make them think more carefully in future though!

I have a 9 year old westie, he's pretty tolerant of the kids (16 & 11) but he does have his moods. Certainly one to watch with little ones.

But yes, sheer stupidity. I was told the other week they are now considering buying a Jack Russel :eek:

BitterAndTwisted

Why is that, has their poor child lost her fear of dogs now? If she has, I'm pretty sure that she'll revert to her former condition once another blessed terrier is brought into the picture. Tell them that they should consider a nice, placid greyhound instead. They won't be tearing around 24/7 and ignoring any commands, they'll have the devil of a job prising it off the sofa instead