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Gave dog back to breeder, refusing to give money back

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  • patchwork_cat
    patchwork_cat Posts: 5,874 Forumite
    edited 21 July 2009 at 10:41AM
    I was a cat breeder and it is common practice that in this case there s no refund offered particularly if the animal is not rehomed. Some breeders will refund all but costs incurred which is probably all you would get if you took this legally and only then once the animal is resold. You would be surprised what the costs incurred would be and my bet is that in fact if you took it through a solcitor once the breeder had itemised costs you would probably owe them!!!

    If you accept a return the pet will need a vet check and possibly blood testing to check it has not picked anything up. It will need to be isolated from the rest of the kennel and be kept until all blood tests come back fine. The breeder will then have to readvertise the pet and will proably accept a lower price as it wil no longer be a little pup. All this time it is fed, watered,exercised , medicated etc. the breeder could easily add all this up to well over £500
  • Sami_Bee
    Sami_Bee Posts: 14,555 Forumite
    lowis wrote: »
    so where the hell does my absolute terror and fear of earthworms come from then? :confused:
    I hate them too but I know where my fear came from; my lovely sister used to throw them at me :(
    The very best is sometimes what nature gives us for free.
    3onitsway wrote: »
    I think Sami is right, as always!
  • tiamai_d
    tiamai_d Posts: 11,987 Forumite
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    lowis wrote: »
    so where the hell does my absolute terror and fear of earthworms come from then? :confused:

    Same place as my fear of slugs.. and to a lesser extent, snails.

    *shaking thinking about them!*
  • Brightness
    Brightness Posts: 293 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    I have a 20 year old who is terrified of dogs, it used to be all dogs, but he can cope now with small, still ones.

    It stems from when he was 3, and we were out walking, from down the bottom of the lane, a huge Doberman appeared, bounded towards him, and, as he stood stock still in fear, jumped up at him and rested both paws on his shoulders, and licked every inch of his face. Of course the dog was being friendly, but he was traumatised by the incident. So, whilst they may not be born with it, any early upsetting brush with a dog can result in a lifetime fear of them.

    That's perfectly understandable then. Especially something as large and powerful as a Dobie - being face height with a small child.

    But saying that, would you go out and buy him a dog? I have grown up with dogs and can't imagine living without at least one. My mother used to keep toy poodle stud dogs and my word they can nip but we were always told that if they bit us it was our own fault. Taught us to respect animals though!

    My own kids have never been scared of dogs but then we've always brought them up to respect the dogs and only to approach them if they ask the owner etc. I really think that in half the people in this country who have a dog phobia it could have been prevented!

    ................................................................................................

    lowis, your earthworm terror was probably because when you were tiny youn saw one wriggling and was pulled away from it by someone saying it was dirty or something.

    I sometimes wish my kids hadn't been so animal mad (a bit like me) as I once got home from work to find 2 of my best crystal whisky tumblers on the doorstep (can't you tell that daddy had been in charge????). When I asked why, I was told by jy then 3 yr old that one contained a worm farm and the other and ant farm and under no circumstances were they to be moved as they were 'settling in'. They soon settled in better into a couple of old pickling vinegar jars - more room to move ;)
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Brightness wrote: »
    That's perfectly understandable then. Especially something as large and powerful as a Dobie - being face height with a small child.

    But saying that, would you go out and buy him a dog?
    ................................................................................................

    ;)

    We thought about it, more during his teen years when we once heard him say he would move out if we got one for our youngest son;) it seemed an appealing choice some days!!! dog v stroppy teen:D
  • tiamai_d
    tiamai_d Posts: 11,987 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    We thought about it, more during his teen years when we once heard him say he would move out if we got one for our youngest son;) it seemed an appealing choice some days!!! dog v stroppy teen:D

    gives me an idea for a movie.... :rolleyes::rotfl:
  • Paparika wrote: »
    Jack russels are great, mine is so mild mannered but at the end of the day he could turn and we all know that, mine doesn't bite, barks lots but has never bitten... doesn't mean he will never do it tho, and that is something that needs to be in the mind every single day.

    Because one day someone/something could just pee him off enough to want to bite

    Is your dog a JRT? The one in your avvy?? He does not look like one to me at all!
  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    Is your dog a JRT? The one in your avvy?? He does not look like one to me at all!

    Maybe a x? Isn't a full one, no white! Lovely Dog tho!
  • mattuk80 wrote: »
    (I did try to get my mum to go down this route). QUOTE]

    If you know your mum has personal problems i dont think it will help her to have any dog or pet. I am just thinking the pressure and responsibility (emotional, time and financially) of owning any pet doesnt sound like a good one for your mum at the moment. Not being nasty just being genuine to your mum and any potential pets she may get.
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  • poet123 wrote: »
    The responsibility to have requested a contract in writing at the outset lay with your mother, as in "Buyer Beware". You cannot now write the terms of a contract she would have like to have been given, the contract was a simple dog/money one with no additional terms, therefore no expectation of additional terms (either expressed or implied) on either side, should exist.

    Your mother has handed the dog back, and relinquished ownership and responsibilty to the breeder, it would be for a court to decide whether the breeder actually offered a refund verbally, taking account the industry norm for such occurrences. In the normal course of business how common is it for her to have done that, or is it accepted practice, I suspect it is not.

    That you now say you will have the puppy back is not good. A court may well conclude that any reasonable person would have expected this option to be explored prior to handing it back to the breeder.

    I really dont think you have a case. Buying an animal should be a well thought out decision, iis not a handbag you can take back unused, and get a refund on. Additionally there was a time before collection when a change of heart could have been arrived at.

    This poor puppy has had a terrible start in life, compared with this your mother has lost a few hundred pounds.

    This kind of issue is bound to raise strong feelings, but legally I don't believe your mother has any recourse.
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
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