Gave dog back to breeder, refusing to give money back

lowis

of course, if you wanted to get some sort of satisfaction you could always check to see the 'breeder' has registered the business and is paying tax...sounds as if she is a shonky breeder to me so i doubt it. you could cause her a real nightmare if she has to suddenly prove her income and outgoings to the tax man!

Frugalista

lowis wrote: »

you miss my point...she wouldn't be £500 out of pocket would she, just the donation.

Hmmm! My MIL would disagree - she ended up nearly £1000 out of pocket after getting a dog from a well known rescue. They deliberately misled her about the dogs' medical condition and then washed their hands of it when she complained :mad:. Also, she was charged full price for the "donation" despite being an OAP well into her 80's!!

There are good breeders and unscrupulous rescue centres as well as the other way round you know!

Frugalista

lowis wrote: »

...sounds as if she is a shonky breeder to me

I think this is grossly unfair. So far, we have been told that the breeders' friend has done all the talking.

The only contact the OP's mother has had with the actual breeder is when she agreed to take the pup back initially (and well done to her for doing so at such short notice).

For all we know, the breeder could still be away on holiday and be totally unaware of what is going on.

Sounds to me like the OP and her mother are more concerned about the money than the welfare of the puppy! And, frankly, I'm shocked by the lack of concern for the puppy by some of the posters on here. Pity the OP didn't step in before this poor little babe was shunted back and forth.

lowis

Frugalista wrote: »

I think this is grossly unfair. So far, we have been told that the breeders' friend has done all the talking.

The only contact the OP's mother has had with the actual breeder is when she agreed to take the pup back initially (and well done to her for doing so at such short notice).

For all we know, the breeder could still be away on holiday and be totally unaware of what is going on.

Sounds to me like the OP and her mother are more concerned about the money than the welfare of the puppy! And, frankly, I'm shocked by the lack of concern for the puppy by some of the posters on here. Pity the OP didn't step in before this poor little babe was shunted back and forth.

all decent breeders supply paperwork, contract and receipt when they sell a pet, it seems this breeder did no such thing. ..there was no signed contract. hence my deduction that they could possibly well be shonky.

i am not anti-breeder frugalista so you can stop being defensive x

Brightness

lowis wrote: »

you miss my point...she wouldn't be £500 out of pocket would she, just the donation.

Sorry lowis but you didn't make that very clear did you? From what I read .....

lowis wrote: »

if your mum had gone to a rescue then she wouldn't be having any of these problems...shame she chose a pedigree really.

it sounded like she'd be able to get her money back from a rescue centre....

Frugalista

lowis wrote: »

all decent breeders supply paperwork, contract and receipt when they sell a pet, it seems this breeder did no such thing. ..there was no signed contract. hence my deduction that they could possibly well be shonky.

i am not anti-breeder frugalista so you can stop being defensive x

As far as I can deduce from the OP's postings, whilst she said her mother did not sign any contract - no other paperwork was mentioned - if there was or wasn't any either way.

For what it is worth, not all reputable breeders have a contract of sale. Personally, I cannot understand why this should be, but it is not uncommon.

I recently read a breed supplement from one of the weekly dog papers where highly respected breeders at the top of their chosen breed where asked about contracts. Around 2 out of 10 said they didn't! I happen to think this is extremely foolhardy - but it doesn't make them "shonky" breeders, per se.

As for the "defensive" comment - I am merely pointing out that the OP (nor her mother) appear to have spoken to the breeder herself, just her "friend" - yet everyone is slating this person regardless. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

lowis

Frugalista wrote: »

As far as I can deduce from the OP's postings, whilst she said her mother did not sign any contract - no other paperwork was mentioned - if there was or wasn't any either way.

For what it is worth, not all reputable breeders have a contract of sale. Personally, I cannot understand why this should be, but it is not uncommon.

I recently read a breed supplement from one of the weekly dog papers where highly respected breeders at the top of their chosen breed where asked about contracts. Around 2 out of 10 said they didn't! I happen to think this is extremely foolhardy - but it doesn't make them "shonky" breeders, per se.

As for the "defensive" comment - I am merely pointing out that the OP (nor her mother) appear to have spoken to the breeder herself, just her "friend" - yet everyone is slating this person regardless. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

i agree - breeders should have contracts as standard then, to protect themselves a little better from such incidents and to make things crystal clear to the purchaser.

i will reserve judgment on this breeder being shonky, but from what i have heard so far i am not convinced.

Frugalista

lowis wrote: »

i will reserve judgment on this breeder being shonky, but from what i have heard so far i am not convinced.

And I will stand corrected if it is proven that the breeder is in the wrong, but so far, it appears that the OP has not spoken to her directly and has merely gone off "half cocked" :rolleyes:.

shell_girl

Have a look at this link OP - indicates your mum doesn't have a right to any refund. Concentrate on your mum, seems like she has learned an expensive and painful lesson.

Brightness

shell_girl wrote: »

Have a look at this link OP - indicates your mum doesn't have a right to any refund. Concentrate on your mum, seems like she has learned an expensive and painful lesson.

Interesting site shell_girl Thanks for the link :beer: