The Trials and Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)

lilymay1

time2deal wrote: »

I was looking at soy isoflavones, but the information out there is mixed. It seems like some say if you period is regular and you ovulate (which I believe I do) then don't risk it, but... we have to do something as we've spent years trying with no success, so have to try something different.

I know 2ba2c had success with soy - has anyone else?

Hi T2D,

I am on my 4th cycle taking Soy now and as you can tell...I am still not pregnant I've tried all different doses ranging from 80mg to 200mg.

I think a lot of people who take it and are successful have no issues anyway so it's hard to now whether or not it actually made a difference to them if that makes sense? I heard it refered to as a 'poor mans clomid' and can understand why! It didn't do anything to my cycles either. I ovulated at the same time...they were the same length (except 1 cycle that I think was a chemical) but they did give me horrific headaches. Really horrible ones that nothing would shift and lasted for several days.

But...as you say. If you have nothing to loose then why not? Good luck

time2deal

Hi LilyMay,

I think with low numbers of eggs left, you can lose, as you release too many, so I'm going to be cautious for the moment. I went to an accupunture woman today - who was really hopeful and helpful. I am sure it was all a sales tactic, but she was the first person to give me a feeling that there is hope, so I'm feeling a little happier.

I'll start some sessions with her, and will make a booking with the FS once I have the SA results. Feeling a little better today.

bigzippy

TeamLowe wrote: »

Just popping in to say BigZ been thinking of you, hope you're happy with your new plan x x

Ah thanks and to primmer too

Well, I have The Plan but not sure how I feel about it.:o

The Plan is clomid for 6 months I quizzed her at length and she thinks that we now have far more in our favour - tubes that did let dye through (in surgery), some endometriosis removed, more regular periods (right now-they vary), lower weight (I've just hit 31BMI = 5st/12BMI lost she was impressed). She thinks right now I should consider the two main options of a) do nothing else but try naturally and see what happens b) try clomid. Of those 2, I picked clomid I expressed my lack of faith in my tubes, that we'd had to give up on natural conception etc and that I was worried we were just delaying the inevitable of ivf, but she thinks it's worth a try like this, so here we are...

I can't afford to let myself hope that this will be enough. But I can't just go through the motions for the next 7 months just feeling like we're wasting time either. I know this was, in lots of ways, "good news" today, and that The Plan we had before the HSG threw a spanner in the works is now back in play, just a couple of months late, but it just feels so...tainted? now. :cool:

I can't express it any clearer than: I'm too scared to hope.

Primmer

BZ - I can understand how you feel as things have been changing fairly fast in terms of discovering tubes were blocked to them allowing some dye through which has left you and the plan up in the air.
I can understand why fs would like you to try ttc now that tube is at least some way unblocked first before ivf. Ivf puts your body through so much physically and emotionally that fs thinks clomid and ttc is worth a try.
FS must have some confidence that there is a chance you could now be successful as when I saw fs she told me that she would recommend ivf whatever outcome of hsg and so for fs to suggest trying for 6 months she must believe its possible.
Keeping everything crossed for you and huge congrats on the weight loss, amazing achievement!

T2D - glad you are feeling more positive.

mrshappy

Good evening,
BZ-hope you're okay with your new plan-plans are good!

Our plans are a bit confusing at the moment-we saw the urologist a couple of weeks ago and I was under the impression that the hospital would contact us when mrh's blood results came back and we would make the appt for the PESA, wait for SA results from that then back to FS doctor and get things moving along the ICSI lines, however the hospital phoned today and we are going in to see the FS on Monday-I didn't think there was any point in that until the SA was back and we were good to go-at £200 an appointment I don't want to be going for nothing! (My big fear just now is that they do the PESA and the spermies are too crap to use) Unfortunately it was mrh that took the call and he didn't ask any questions!

Primmer

MrsHappy - hope appointment with fs goes okay on Monday and that things can progress with PESA and then ICSI.

Had awful day yesterday, Facebook full of cute little kids dressed up for Halloween, and then some friend of DH had a little girl yesterday and posted lots of lovely pictures on facebook which whilst happy for them, made me feel very sad. Letter came from ivf clinic setting out in writing what was discussed at our recent meeting as to why last ivf failed and what would be done differently. DH told me letter had arrived and he had opened it but when I mentioned it to him later that night to discuss it he said he hadn't read all of it! It was only just over a page so I did have a little strop thinking if he could be bothered to read the letter then no point discussing it.

TeamLowe

BigZ your plan sounds good to me! you said you wanted a bit more time to lose weight (i think) so this gives you time and hope, our two favourite things!

MrsHappy good luck with the FS on Monday

Primmer grr to unobservant husbands and hugs for cute pictures on facebook, my niece was a pumpkin and she was far too cute!

well i have my fingers crossed that this cycle i ovulate, i seem to be producing EWCM which i do for about 10-14 days before i Ov. last month was ridiculously stressful just before Ov which is why i think i missed it so i've got hope that if i stay relaxed i'll get there. although s*ds law, it's the election around the time i should Ov so hopefully i'll manage to stay calm whilst helping out with that x x

time2deal

Evening Team TTC'ers,

Glad you are pleased with the plan BZ, nice to feel like things are progressing. And good look MrsH with the FS.

TeamLowe, you produce EWCM for 10-14 days! I only get it for maybe 1 day. Although it sounds like my ov isn't stong enough, so maybe that is a symptom.

Today I feel slightly like I am falling into quackery. I had a first session of Acupuncture, and have bags and bags of tea things which have to be boiled for 30 minutes, every 2 days! And it smells... I have a feeling DH may not put up with that for long. Plus also a ball of tiny little black seeds that I have to take twice a day. I am dubious...

The acupuncture was good though. Painless, and then I just got left there for a while, so sort of relaxing - if I could only have shut up my brain a bit more! And she also did some cupping, which was also a bit strange, but didn't leave marks which I was worried about.

Has anyone else tried it? I am going twice a week (!!) for the next 6 weeks. Worth a try I suppose. She also told me to take Vitamin E and D daily. I will rattle soon.

fluffnutter

Hmm, I think I'm with you, time2deal. Acupuncture, sure. Vitamins, bring 'em on. Drinking weird tea, eating seeds and cupping, too much like snake oil for me, I'm afraid.

mrshappy

at the things we do! I had a conversation with mrh last night which made me realise how TTC crazy I am, and I sincerely hope that the FS doesn't suggest that I run up and down Argyle Street naked as that will improve my chances of conceiving!:eek:
(Argyle St is one of the busiest streets in Glasgow city centre!)