The Trials and Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)

shelly

Lilo. Glad to read your MRI remains clear, best of luck with smear test results.


QQ. As has been said a HSG is painful/uncomfortable for the time they are doing the procedure and (for me) afterwards I felt like I had mild period pains.

What I found worse than the pain was the 'mess' afterwards. Having not been told what to expect I really wasn't prepared for it. Though when I had my second HSG I was prepared up to my eye balls
I would advise taking wet wipes and a couple of sanitary towels.

QQuaver

Thanks ginvzt. Also only 200g to go on your weight!:T
Once you get your AF (is it here already?), the weight will fall off automatically:cool:

Thanks shelly and sarahs999.
Wet wipes and sanitary towels, OK, got it thanks:)

Smear doesn't hurt in my case, but putting pessaries in to open my cervix (for missed miscarriage erpc op) hurt like nothing I've experienced before:eek:
Only 5 seconds or so though.

sarahs999

QQuaver wrote: »

Smear doesn't hurt in my case, but putting pessaries in to open my cervix (for missed miscarriage erpc op) hurt like nothing I've experienced before:eek:
Only 5 seconds or so though.

REALLY? That shouldn't hurt, why were they pressing them into the cervix? They just need to melt near the cervix. I've had to do it twice and they let me do it myself, just said push it in like a tampon. Sorry you had that experience, sounds appalling.

ginvzt

QQuaver wrote: »

Thanks ginvzt. Also only 200g to go on your weight!:T
Once you get your AF (is it here already?), the weight will fall off automatically:cool:

Thanks shelly and sarahs999.
Wet wipes and sanitary towels, OK, got it thanks:)

Smear doesn't hurt in my case, but putting pessaries in to open my cervix (for missed miscarriage erpc op) hurt like nothing I've experienced before:eek:
Only 5 seconds or so though.

AF is here (on its way out). So, no more magic weight drop. I guess I will have to work more after Pizza Express dinner tonight. Although, I skipped lunch and only had some porridge for breakfast, so it shouldn't be to bad.

Also, I am getting better and I hope to be able to go for a run on Monday and then every other day next week. Fingers crossed I won't start slacking!

Sorry to hear you had painful experience. They have to put catheter in, but it wasn't bad really.

We went to Manchester today for a walk around town and 'spring market', had a meal at pizza express (I love their pizzas and new dolcetti deserts, and I had a voucher, so MSE!), and then poped into NEXT, as I still have £20 gift voucher from when I left my previous job (leaving gift, it makes me sad every time I think about leaving that places - loved it, but 120 mile commute one way was not possible). So, I was looking what can I buy with it. I don;t want to spend it on clothes (although, I haven't bought any from NEXT for ever), and want something to keep to remember, but didn't find anything I'd like. And they had nursery section... I wish I could spend it there! We started ttc while I was still working in the previous place, so it is feeling even more sad.

Ok, rant over. Just needed to get off my chest... Thanks for listening.

QQuaver

sarahs999 wrote: »

REALLY? That shouldn't hurt, why were they pressing them into the cervix? They just need to melt near the cervix. I've had to do it twice and they let me do it myself, just said push it in like a tampon. Sorry you had that experience, sounds appalling.

They needed to force open the cervix to get the (mc) baby out:silenced:

ginvzt wrote: »

And they had nursery section... I wish I could spend it there! We started ttc while I was still working in the previous place, so it is feeling even more sad.

Perhaps you should keep the voucher for a little longer;)

jiblets1

Hi all - hope you've had a lovely extended weekend...

I was hoping for your opinions on this: the one at a time website recommended from the HFEA website. Now obviously, they know what they want to convince you, so you need to bear in mind that it's in propaganda speak, but I'm interested to her what you think.

OH and I were a little disappointed when the consultant told us we would most likely have a SET (single embryo transfer) and I've started doing the reading so we can decide if we want to push for multiple embryos. For me, the interesting thing is that the website says that in Sweden (blooming Sweden - can't someone else be a trailblazer for once?) they've reduced the rate of having twins significantly by electing SET for young healthy potential parents, but the pregnancy rate hasn't really dropped. My main concern was that I might end up with no babies because we only put one in, but if that's not the case, then am I just being greedy to want to put 2 in? It would be so nice to have a complete family and not have to do all this again unless we choose to. On reading the risks though I'm not convinced that they're that high. They talk about twice as high than with singletons this, or 3 times as high than with singletons that, but if the chances are really low at this condition or that disease anyway then do we need to be concerned?

Anyways, I know it's a lot of reading, but if you have the time and the interest I'd appreciate your input.

ta,
jibbs.

liloandstitch

Hi jibs, I have had a quick look. Personnally, I would elect for 2 for the same reasons you have given. I suppose I dont see twins as any more risky than one so I would love to have 2 (although I dont think I would be allowed !) I think you have to go for whichever decision makes you most comfortable, as it is you that has to live with it iyswim.

Sorry I cant be more help! Lilo

sarahs999

QQuaver wrote: »

They needed to force open the cervix to get the (mc) baby out:silenced:

Perhaps you should keep the voucher for a little longer;)

But weren't you under general anaesthetic for that bit? When I've had it I put the pessary thing in myself, they wait an hour or so and then I have had the erpc under gen an.

ginvzt

I had a look at the website too, as it was just yesterday that we were talking with OH about the IVF.

It is so much one sided, it seems to me. Especially the points I copied below.

My grandma had twins (non-identical - my mother and her sister). I never heard my grandma complain or say anything against the multiple pregnancy. Ok, hers was natural, and I think her mum had twins as well. Unfortunately, she is not around any more for me to ask her.

A friend of a friend had twins as a result on IUI. I never heard my friend to relay anything else apart from how happy the new parents are. Yes, you probably be more stressed at wanting to do everything right, because it took you so long and so much to get there! And you will do it perfectly....

It is more work, of course, but I am sure it is not double. It is double the fun!

• Multiple births also carry the risk that, after the baby is born, the new mother will be at greater risk of stress and depression. See Bringing up twins for more information.
• If you have a history of infertility, you are more likely to find being a parent stressful and it’s more likely to affect your health, even if you are a singleton first-time mother compared to naturally conceiving first-time mothers or mothers with a history of infertility who already have children.

Legacy

Anybody had any experiences of using Soy Isoflavones instead of Clomid? Some amazing stories about it on the net:
http://fertility-challenged.blogspot.com/2008/07/soy-isoflavones-natural-clomid.html

"What was interesting is that 75% of the women who tried Soy Isoflavones got a BFP in their FIRST cycle trying" :eek:

Sounds too good to be true? Apparently it works best if Clomid has suited you.. In my situation I've had 2x 6month prescriptions of Clomid and had 2 m/c's but without Clomid I don't ovulate at all. I've now used up my NHS quota of Clomid and so on the hunt for alternatives! I've tried Agnus Castus without success and then while researching on the net came across Soy Isoflavones. They're quite cheap from Holland and Barrett so I may give them a go :beer:
Love, hugs and positive wishes to all, Legacy xx