Tesco - Parent/Child + disabled car spaces

Morglin

kernewek wrote: »

My wife went to Tesco in Helston, Cornwall today with our 8 week old son. Was pouring with rain. She waited for a parent child space and when one came available was promptly barged out of the way by some moron in a big truck 4x4 thing. She confronted the guy and got a load of abuse. He didn't even have a child and so was forced to struggle with a normal space and walk much further with a young baby in pouring rain. On complaining at customer services was met with the response "What do you expect us to do". This is not the first time. We often have problems with people who take these spaces but it is a nightmare trying to get a baby out of a cramped space especially when it is raining. Asda a few miles down the road have a £60 penalty policy, and Sainsburys also have deterrents and it doesn't seem to happen at either. Tesco suggest we use disabled spaces, but don't disabled people need those? There are also plenty of people who abuse these. However, what is the point of having special spaces for people who need them if Tesco aren't prepared to enforce it. Its sad that people are so inconsiderate and such selfish b*St*rds but just as sad that Tesco appear to condone it. :mad:

We always had trouble parking in the disabled bays at Tesco - the staff just told us to park in Mother and Child Bays.:rolleyes:

Finally, I wrote to Terence Leahy (marking the letter personal), and he wrote back apologising, saying that disabled bays were an obligation, and that the staff should have ensured that they were not abused (apparantly, mother and child bays are just a concesion and they won't enforce those).

He said that he had arranged for staff to patrol the dis bays and to make customers, not displaying a badge, come out and move the cars, which he did.

He also said that new stores would have 'camera recognition' for disabled bays, and that has certainly happened in the new store built round here.:T

It might be worth writing to him - but I'm not sure how hard they will enforce the mother and child bays - happily, it is hoped (by those that lobby for these things and future EU directives) that it will be an offence to park in disabled bays, without a badge, whether on private ground or not.

Meantime, we just have to hope that people will be a little less selfish.:mad:

Lin

Jaffa.

scrimping_student wrote: »

So why should people with children be closer to the door than people with a disabled badge? Personally I think if you want to have a child that's up to you just don't expect a special car parking spot

Ignorance is bliss :rolleyes: Tis folly to be wise. If we didn't have children there would be no human race!

Morglin

Jez_Wolf wrote: »

At the end of the day, Disabled bays and Parent & Child bays have no legal standing on private car parks.

Get over it.

Yes they do - ANY organisation over a certain size HAS to provide disabled bays.

They are not doing it to be nice lol - and the law is to change shortly, which should make sure they have to enforce them, private land or not:T

I'd lurve to 'get over it' - unfortunately, I struggle to get over it, round it and to it - simply because people think that is only they could be crippled, they too could park near to the shop, but as they haven't and are healthy, then what the hell, we'll park there anyway.............. :mad:

But, I don't worry too much - I just block bay abusers in, and then make them wait until I have finished the shopping before I move the car.:rotfl:

Lin

poet123

I am not aware P&C spaces would fall under the same legislation though, only the disabled spaces (quite rightly imo)

Jaffa.

Morglin wrote: »

But, I don't worry too much - I just block bay abusers in, and then make them wait until I have finished the shopping before I move the car.:rotfl:

That makes you just as bad as them, then. What gives you the right to take the law into your own hands?

And surly, if you can manage without using any car parking space at all then why do you need to use a disabled one?

dizziblonde

I'm personally with the school that if you have children, the world does not owe you a living or a round of applause - support, yes, but expecting a red carpet on account of sperm meeting egg... no. I'm also against positive discrimination for women etc as well - I expect no favours on the grounds of my biology. I've always been of the school of thought that you make your life choices and you take responsibility for the consequences of those life choices.

I have every sympathy and tolerance for disabled people who can't help their physical needs and need spaces they can get in and out of and access the store - no one chooses that, and our local Tesco have shoved the disabled spaces further away and smaller than the parent and child spaces. Why should these people with real mobility needs have to be disadvantaged so people who CHOSE to have children get a slightly easier ride? I do get sick of people demanding concessions, favours and the like purely and simply because they've had sperm and egg in the right place at the right time and screaming hysterically at anyone who dares challenge this or speak out on behalf of those who aren't parents. I'm tired of seeing newspaper articles etc, and getting told on here that I'm insignificant and don't matter at all because I'm not a parent and the ensuing assumptions about my character (that I'm selfish, hedonistic, don't have kids so I can buy flash holidays - I'm actually going through infertility investigations). The story about the guy eating his sandwich in the park disgusted me - but that's the way the world is these days... I've sat and read a paper in a park while waiting for my fiance before but I did still feel like I shouldn't be there and people would challenge why I dared be on a bench somewhere green (I could produce a teacher registration card and CRB check if confronted like that - but why the heck should I have to feel like that). Yet we pay our council tax toward funding these parks and open spaces too - but are now no longer allowed to feel comfortable or at ease in them.

But parent and child places? Was at the gym this afternoon and a parent parked up in one of these spaces, got out with his two children, led them across the carpark to the leisure centre... the children were about 14. Now I'm sorry, but that's extracting the water completely.

poet123

:DAre you male!! apparently you must be!

kernewek

notafan wrote: »

Here come the angry mob SIGH

This is the attitude that highlights my point its always the same...

i have a child, i have a right, you should provide, we should have, everyone should make it easier

all answered simply,

you made a choice so deal with it, your owed you nothing

I've heard this type of argument used elsewhere. Oh yeah the BNP

poet123

I think that is uncalled for (FROM BOTH POSTERS)

As a mother and a driver with 4 kids I never needed a p&c space. I could quite easily get a baby seat out of my car, so I am not quite sure why others can't. Rain is a fact of life in the UK, and as such you plan for it, buy a seat with a hood or cover your baby with a brolly.

I think that a lot of new mums do think that they are now entitled to special privileges, the reality is that we do choose to have children, and the special spaces should in my opinion be confined to those who are disabled and therefore have no choice in the matter.

kernewek

poet123 wrote: »

I think that is uncalled for (FROM BOTH POSTERS)

As a mother and a driver with 4 kids I never needed a p&c space. I could quite easily get a baby seat out of my car, so I am not quite sure why others can't. Rain is a fact of life in the UK, and as such you plan for it, buy a seat with a hood or cover your baby with a brolly.

I think that a lot of new mums do think that they are now entitled to special privileges, the reality is that we do choose to have children, and the special spaces should in my opinion be confined to those who are disabled and therefore have no choice in the matter.

I don't think it is uncalled for at all. I am responding to a completely unecessary personal attack. I'm sure we could manage without P&C spaces, but the fact of the matter is these spaces are there and should not be abused. The argument could be applied to the old lady getting on a train that is full. Yes she chose to get on that train, but does that mean we should not help her? Unfortunately today the answer seems to be yes. I don't want special treatment but I do believe in helping people and making people's lives easier. Its a thing called manners.