Property Snakes and Ladders; 2009

poppy10_2

mewbie wrote: »

Right I'm a bit cross. The deal with the program is that we watch a pair of idiots do somewhere up and then fail to sell it, and/or lose money on it. Not - watch pair of idiots do up a place and move in.

At least they didn't go down the route of "oh, we'll just rent it out until the market recovers."

moneysavinmonkey

GracieP wrote: »

Am I alone in suspecting that the lodge couple always intended to live in their development? And were only pretending to be after a profit to get on tv/a few freebies.

I thought this almost immediately when they were interviewed by beeney. The fact they wanted to do things 'their way' was the give away!! When the woman said they hadn't even looked at the difference in price between 3 and 4 bedrooms houses I just thought what a joke, no way they are planning on selling.

oh well, makes a change from "we'll just rent it out until the market recovers".
two couples have one house each to live in and love, i'm happy with that result

Cannon_Fodder

I hit "Like It" just to see what happened, not much...don't know if it has changed anything, anywhere...we need to see a counter, like Thanks...

Snooze

Cannon_Fodder wrote: »

I hit "Like It" just to see what happened, not much...don't know if it has changed anything, anywhere...we need to see a counter, like Thanks...

I've found answers !! :j

Like-it button.

Ever read a thread thought so good you wanted to tell everyone? Now you can! Click the 'Like-it' button when viewing a thread

What happens: Firstly it alerts the MSE team of a great deal and it also adds a rating, which in some boards you'll soon be able to sort by the 'ratings view'.

All seems rather gimmicky to me. I could perhaps understand it if the average reader age of this site was 12 but as far as I know most of us are adults so the only conclusion I can come to is that Martin was drunk when he decided it was a good idea. :rolleyes:

Rob

dopester

Nigel and his wife in Henley-on-Thames. They sold their more expensive house and moved into the house they "developed" on the show. Not satisfied with their own house worth hundreds of thousands of pounds they had to buy a new house "to-do-up" expecting to cream-off an easy £60K or something.

Self-employed book-seller. Read some history and get in to the real-world. House prices don't just triple every 10 years as a Labour magic rule.

July 2007... buying at top of the market.

Nigel: We've been looking for a house like this for about a year and a half to two years. Projects like this don't come along very often and you don't even have to think about.. when you get the opportunity to buy something like this you've just go in there.

Beeny: Have you always thought about developing or not?

Nigel: Bottom line is making money. We want to get our mortgage down as much we can.

Jilly: Yeah, Nigel's old fashioned hahahaa.

Nigel: I think it's a long term aim to be realistic. It's going to take a few projects like this to get to that stage.

Nigel Gough: "The worst thing was not being able to borrow any more money."

dopester

GracieP wrote: »

Am I alone in suspecting that the lodge couple always intended to live in their development? And were only pretending to be after a profit to get on tv/a few freebies.

They were so stubborn about wanting things they liked and nobody could possibly have thought the living/diningroom decor was the right way to go if you wanted to sell.

See your point.. but him an ex-cabbie. According to the show, sold their house, sunk their savings in... living in a caravan. Also eventually compromised, on-the-cheap, for 4 bedrooms. Complaining mid-development about feeling like a cash-machine: "You just think well, where you supposed to get it from. You can't just keep shelling it out."

Now stuck with a big family home somewhere pretty remote in the woods. What she saw as privacy and a haven... maybe so for a family... but also isolated and lonely for some people (not those here planning rural house purchases).

barrooo

The bloke from couple 2 said "If we'd have known what was going to happen to house prices we never would have started the damn project in the first place"

That the 2009 "statin' the bleedin' obvious' award sorted then

harryhound

dopester wrote: »

See your point.. but him an ex-cabbie. According to the show, sold their house, sunk their savings in... living in a caravan. Also eventually compromised, on-the-cheap, for 4 bedrooms. Complaining mid-development about feeling like a cash-machine: "You just think well, where you supposed to get it from. You can't just keep shelling it out."

Now stuck with a big family home somewhere pretty remote in the woods. What she saw as privacy and a haven... maybe so for a family... but also isolated and lonely for some people (not those here planning rural house purchases).

The moment I saw Alan & Sue's project, I thought this is going to be Grand Designs - There is no way that when they have put all the hours God gave into this project they will be able to sell it. The programme was not clear about how their own labour was costed into the project; the same applied to Nigel & Jilly's place in Henley to which they had to downsize.
These double half hour programmes just don't have enough time to discuss the techniques & extra costs needed to comply with the modern building Regs.
For example propping up the rear of the Henley house on two RSJ's might cause design problems these days. Similarly achieving sufficient thermal insulation for the rooms in the roof must be difficult.

The House in the Woods is almost certainly off the gas grid - how is it being heated?
They are going to be ever so busy if trying to "scrump" enough logs from the local woods to feed that log burner 24/7.

I think Beenie is more of an Urban/Suburban animal and fails to realise that people who live "off grid" tend to be a bit off the wall (or very rich) Either way they tend to be individualistic rather that strictly rational.

Harry.

PS can someone tell Alan & Sue that I have a big oak cupboard, with the door carved to match their "Green Man".
I think it is lovely and have fond childhood memories of it, but it's toooo big to fit into houndhovel, so it is cluttering up my double garage. Far too good for firewood :rolleyes:

trumpton

I see the point about it being annoying when they decide to move in, instead of sell at a loss, but these couples are so deep in the doo-doo that they don't have much choice. Plus, they are still spouting. "We'll wait for the market to recover". But, as usual, I think they were counting on the rising market for profit.

Yakubu22

How many people are waiting to sell "when the market recovers?", and how long will it take before the penny drops?