What would be a fair spec reapcement for samsung tv?

lee2009

I looked ciao as you suggested however it doesnt list a lot features and some it says my tv doesnt have which it does.

I can see why you came to the conclusion that it was better and it is in some ways.

Its difficult some sites list some features taht others dont so its hard to get direct comaprison howver her is some:

supports broadcast 1080i, 720p 480 p 480i, 576p 576i
proposed tv broadcast support 720p

2 scarts
proposed 1

s video proposed none

picture in picture
proposed none

child lock
proposed none

fastext proposed
teletext

filter technology forget the exact name

supports 16:9, 14:9
proposed only 16:9

I could list more although as i say i cannot find anywhere thats list all features and specs of both.

I have considered lcd but i feel that plasma are better sepecailly as i like my sport. The upshot is simple the tv offered is better in many ways however it doesnt have features i have on my tv which is why i bought that tv.

It may seem a better tv but does not have half the features of mine even though the picture quality is far superior to mine. The same of the one you kindly gave the link to they do not have anywher near as good features. The main problem is i ahve a wii connected and a 360 connected into the rgb at the back which the other tvs dont seem to have. I need two scart sockets for my sky and one for home theatre, i have it wall mounted and do not want a scart switcher mainly beacuse why should as i dont now.

I will look at the other models now, i appreciate you taking the time to look. I can assure my intention is not to ripp the company off at all but to get the best i can without compromising what i already have. I woul dhonestly be happy with the same tv and pay extra to get 50" as if i can i will put extra to get one, unfortunately they dont have it as its discontinued now.

stugib

lee2009 wrote: »

supports broadcast 1080i, 720p 480 p 480i, 576p 576i
proposed tv broadcast support 720p

That could be an issue but I don't think it will be true given the age of the TV, more likely the spec is incomplete. 576 is standard analogue PAL I think, so there's no way it won't support that.

lee2009 wrote: »

2 scarts
proposed 1

What other inputs

s video proposed none

Again, I'd check S-video. Do you use anything that goes into S-Video that won't go into something else? What else does your home cinema support? I have component video output that will give you a better picture than Scart.

lee2009 wrote: »

picture in picture
proposed none

child lock
proposed none

How many of those do you actually use? PiP is a pretty niche feature. Could you really not live without these?

lee2009 wrote: »

fastext proposed
teletext

filter technology forget the exact name

Fasttext=teletext with the red/blue/green/yellow shortcut buttons. Analogue teletext will be obsolete within 6-36 months depending where you live.

Not sure what 'filter technology' is but it's often marketing blurb with minimal impact, so any comparisons to other manufacture's blurb are meaningless.

lee2009 wrote: »

supports 16:9, 14:9
proposed only 16:9

You don't need 14:9, it was an old analogue broadcast format used as a compromise between 4:3 and 16:9.

lee2009 wrote: »

I could list more although as i say i cannot find anywhere thats list all features and specs of both.
It may seem a better tv but does not have half the features of mine even though the picture quality is far superior to mine.

You're in danger of over-analysing this. Manufacturers tweak way too much with the basic specs to shave a few pennies off the build cost and appeal to different markets or different retailers. There will always be differences between the specs of any two TVs you pick, but sometimes you have to take a step back and ask yourself how important the differences are.

You have the added complication of dealing with DSG who sometimes have agreements with manufacturers to have slightly cut-down models that are exclusive to them, so if you're not careful you think you're getting the features of the base manufacturer model but it's missing some features or sockets, all for the sake of one letter difference in the product code.

There is a PS42A451 on Samsung's website which I expect is a case of this being the base model for the one they're offering, so you're best going in and seeing exactly what the TV has.

lee2009 wrote: »

The main problem is i ahve a wii connected and a 360 connected into the rgb at the back which the other tvs dont seem to have. I need two scart sockets for my sky and one for home theatre, i have it wall mounted and do not want a scart switcher mainly beacuse why should as i dont now.

By RGB do you mean Component? Does your current one really have two banks of component to have your Wii and 360 plugged in at the same time? Go and find out all the outputs your devices have, then confirm all the inputs on the TV. If it can be done by buying a cable or two, you might just have to reconsider how things are connected.

Unfortunately I think more people are going to find themselves in your position, where they have equipment with analogue outputs (Scart, S-video, composite) and the TVs have moved onto digital inputs (HDMI) and cut out the old sockets before consumers have chance to upgrade. Of course the manufacturers benefit because people then have to upgrade

lee2009

I have a component at the back which i plug my 360 into so i can play in hd in 1080i, the other tvs dont support this as they are 720p i think i know teh one they have based the price on is.

I have a s video on the side which i plug wii into, the theatre system coul dbe plugged into sky box by phonos howver i play music through my pc to the theatre system so therefore i cannot do that.

I like the pip as i have cameras and while im console i can check if someone at the door im lazy like that lol its good gadget and very handy for me.

As for the 14:9 16:9 theys features are handy again although its because even tho the braoadcast in 16.9 i tend to get bars across screen i need to zoom in . I have checked the sky menu and its set to 16:9 so i dont know if other televisons would do this they may do.

I have noticed that the new leds dont have scarts at all i think they just have something called dvis or something lol, i wont worry until decide to purchase one.

As i mentioned the features mentioned are what i need they is other features i dont but the above are definetly needed, including my gaming mode again not sure new televison would have this.

As for the bright technology its doe stend be goods as it adjusts it self according to the light which is handy. Its handy when sunny because you can still see clearly again whe its dark, it may be petty but it was one of the reasons why i bought the tv i got just as it came down from 1400 gbp. Hence why they is so many good features.

4743hudsonj

lee2009 wrote: »

I have a component at the back which i plug my 360 into so i can play in hd in 1080i, the other tvs dont support this as they are 720p i think i know teh one they have based the price on is.

I have a s video on the side which i plug wii into, the theatre system coul dbe plugged into sky box by phonos howver i play music through my pc to the theatre system so therefore i cannot do that.

I like the pip as i have cameras and while im console i can check if someone at the door im lazy like that lol its good gadget and very handy for me.

As for the 14:9 16:9 theys features are handy again although its because even tho the braoadcast in 16.9 i tend to get bars across screen i need to zoom in . I have checked the sky menu and its set to 16:9 so i dont know if other televisons would do this they may do.

I have noticed that the new leds dont have scarts at all i think they just have something called dvis or something lol, i wont worry until decide to purchase one.

As i mentioned the features mentioned are what i need they is other features i dont but the above are definetly needed, including my gaming mode again not sure new televison would have this.

As for the bright technology its doe stend be goods as it adjusts it self according to the light which is handy. Its handy when sunny because you can still see clearly again whe its dark, it may be petty but it was one of the reasons why i bought the tv i got just as it came down from 1400 gbp. Hence why they is so many good features.

hmmm your heading towards a dangerous area still, i see some of the features you mean now, problem is these are very minor issues and some are not used so it will be deemed satisfacctory to give you something similar if certain things are not available.


like i said, stop looking at samsung, look at everything, best thing is to ring the sales line at currys and ask as they will give you the best option.

and btw the tv wont just support 720p

thats just its highest progressive resolution, it will support everything else under it too including 1080i

if a tv supports 720p it supports 1080i too

lee2009

I mno expert when it comes to these thing to be honest although i am very quick learner lol and 1080i is infact better than 720p therefore it would nt support the 1080i they are very similar i admit however the fact as far im concerned is taht 1080i is faster and is better fo rwhat i watch which i sport mainly.

The samsung only support 720p whil emine supports everything upto as well but the other doesnt dont know why it doesnt.

i have looked at the panasonics and they are very near if you go up in price to about 899.99 this one TX-P42S10 ive still to look at all th especs but it is as close as i have found.

Down side a really hate these its still not got near all the features i have and not sure whether my wall mounting will fit it. And i wouldnt be able to buy a bigger one its a extra 300 gbp at least although i cant find the bigger version.

Oh and yes i do use all the spec i mentioned the ones i dont i havent mentioned. thanks again

lee2009

dacouch wrote: »

If your previous TV had two scarts and its reasonable that you need two scarts then it would be reasonable to expect the Insurer to offer a TV that had two scarts.

You will find these guidance notes from the Financial Ombudsman and case studiers helpful. (These are published to guide Insurers and Policyholders and your Insurer should go by the Ombudsmans guidance)

http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ombudsman-news/10/oct-repair-replace-cash.htm

This is interesting as clearly ifthey cannot offer a replacement i am not happy then i have a right to ask for money. Howevr i have asked them about this before and they have refused saying they cannot do that.

Is this a legal right im not sure but cant see any television i would like from their as they would simply want me to take one they believe to be near spec.

This would be my profered way as i can go somewhere else in mind argos as they have agood service unlike currys who are and if i coul dget out of going with them i would. Plus i cant get a better tv fo rthe money and stick with samsumg and get what i want, where as currys would simply insisit on me purchasing a 42" eve if it wasnt upto spec wher as i woul dprobably drop some specs to get a 50" without obviously the scart sand other connections compromised.

At argos this would be the case however i woul dstill disagree on th eamount they are offering i dont beleiev i could get same spec tv for tha t amount.

4743hudsonj

lee2009 wrote: »

I mno expert when it comes to these thing to be honest although i am very quick learner lol and 1080i is infact better than 720p therefore it would nt support the 1080i they are very similar i admit however the fact as far im concerned is taht 1080i is faster and is better fo rwhat i watch which i sport mainly.

The samsung only support 720p whil emine supports everything upto as well but the other doesnt dont know why it doesnt.

i have looked at the panasonics and they are very near if you go up in price to about 899.99 this one TX-P42S10 ive still to look at all th especs but it is as close as i have found.

Down side a really hate these its still not got near all the features i have and not sure whether my wall mounting will fit it. And i wouldnt be able to buy a bigger one its a extra 300 gbp at least although i cant find the bigger version.

Oh and yes i do use all the spec i mentioned the ones i dont i havent mentioned. thanks again

1080 is not "better" ... its different

and im sorry but i am right, it will support 1080i as its is not "better", its merly higher pixel

let me explain


the difference between the p and the i at the end is how the picture is displayed ie progressivle or interlaced

noe progressive is a much newer technology and is far more suited to fast movement and gives a better picture than their interlaced equivalents

so a 720p picture is superior to a 720i picture

720p is acrtually a verys similar quality to 1080i when looked at, the only difference being that 1080i will look better for still and 720p for movement so in this case i would display all your games etc on 720p as you will see an improvement


the ps3 for example by default displays its menu in 1080i as it remains fairly static but when you switch into a game or movie it immediatly turns to 720p for the movement


this is why they display a tv as 720p as it is a more relevant output, and as i said ALL tv's that support 720p will support 1080i and visa versa (and all outputs beneeth them)

and as for you watching sport, switch to 720p for goodness sake! its what they made it for, MOVEMENT!

the only quality better than these is 1080i which has the good points of both in one.

so yeh dont worry about that

as for everything else, like i said some of it is Samsung own words for similar technologys and you will have a hard time getting these as although you will get the same spec pretty much, its almost impossible for them to get an exact match and it is unreasonable of you to think that they can.


as for asking for money, you cant, end of

your previous contract has been terminated and you must begin a new one

the vouchers will have zero value for sale as they are in your name and require id for use

basically they have given you a refund to get a replacement if you wish to, you may spend them otherwise. this is why they do not have to give you money.

so your stuck im afraid



look... i will do more research for you, im really tech savvy and know what im on about

give me all of the specs you NEED absolutely to be on your new tv that were on your old one

then give me the ones you would LIKE separately

then give me any extras


i will look more up and tell you more options


tbh my last results were pretty good but obviously you want some more features so yeh do the above and ill do the work for you.

lee2009

You are quite right i have researched to 1080i and 720p and they is little difference i came across a article that suggested 1080i was better for sport now i think it may be the opposite howver i think my tv supports more.

I need 2 scart as stated a s video and composite

3 hdmi mine is 1.2 as i will need these in the future and already have these and front av

child lock, picture in picture, dab tuner obviously

wall mountable

fastext, i like the bright technology as stated earlier its better and its a great feature i wouldnt want to compromise

auto tuner

rgb, pcmcia for pc connection

surround sound, game and movie modes on screen display

16:9 zoom all that as this is useful on mine

these are most of the feature si use what i can think and have obviously, I woul dlike to upgrade to a 50" ideally but that would depened if i can a bigger one and how much.

Th eother thing iswall mounting i know asamsung are fine on mine but others arnt laways and most dont state what mounting they are and i dont want to change my wall bracket.

I can see that im going to end with something i dont like but i want a tv so maybe i could sell it and then go somewhere else i dont know lol.

mine is called a samsung lily this i swhere i got some specs fro although again doesnt list mt features http://top-tv.co.uk/PS42Q96HD.html.

Thanks again for taking the time to help much appreciated

4743hudsonj

lee2009 wrote: »

You are quite right i have researched to 1080i and 720p and they is little difference i came across a article that suggested 1080i was better for sport now i think it may be the opposite howver i think my tv supports more.

I need 2 scart as stated a s video and composite

3 hdmi mine is 1.2 as i will need these in the future and already have these and front av

child lock, picture in picture, dab tuner obviously

wall mountable

fastext, i like the bright technology as stated earlier its better and its a great feature i wouldnt want to compromise

auto tuner

rgb, pcmcia for pc connection

surround sound, game and movie modes on screen display

16:9 zoom all that as this is useful on mine

these are most of the feature si use what i can think and have obviously, I woul dlike to upgrade to a 50" ideally but that would depened if i can a bigger one and how much.

Th eother thing iswall mounting i know asamsung are fine on mine but others arnt laways and most dont state what mounting they are and i dont want to change my wall bracket.

I can see that im going to end with something i dont like but i want a tv so maybe i could sell it and then go somewhere else i dont know lol.

mine is called a samsung lily this i swhere i got some specs fro although again doesnt list mt features http://top-tv.co.uk/PS42Q96HD.html.

Thanks again for taking the time to help much appreciated

i dont see how interlaced could be better for sport hmmm its the complete opposite but yeh i would definetly reccoment sticking to 720p unless you use it as a very large picture frame

also i find interlaced better for pc use as again its more static.

and i see now that ciao didnt list some of the smaller stuff as alot of people dont care


if its useful to you its worth pursueing though


i cant really help much though as currys site does not have enough detail

what you do need to do is call curys tele sales

ask them to find you a tv, list all the feature ytou want and they will do the leg work

then you will know what you need to get and currys cant deny there own work

its what i did with my laptop



as i said i pursued a laptop much more expensive than my vouchers for a usb and a high def recordable drive. I had hd0dvd at first and i said even thogh its stopped now i still bought old discs off the net for better storage

i used this excuse to get myself a bluray drive:D


haha so yeh go after it and they cant deny you

lee2009

Rang currys telesales who told me the one they had based their valuation on and this ahsd all spec and features of my old one.

Itold them that it didnt and listed the features of mine, the ttelesales lady simply fobbed me off ansd said you need to go into store as that way i cold find out the features of teles they have and they couldnt help

So i will have to do that when i getmy vouchers i guess as if i go before they will no doubt tell me to come back when i have them.