I hope I never sign on again!!!!!

zappster1966

Only reason you're having a hard time of it, Leviathan, is because you've had a crack at DWP workies (which some folks here are), made thinly veiled threats about "unleashing the dogs of war" against them, made out as if taking an office job is somehow below your status & that in some way your acceptance of it is some sort of charitable act for which we should all be grateful.

Like Woodbine says you still haven't detailed what the exact problem is you're having with the Jobcentre apart from "they won't accept my forms".

What forms ? What's the problem you're having with them exactly ? I take it you want help getting it sorted ? If not, go elsewhere to vent.

AnxiousMum

Right now you could be working your socks off with private tutoring. At £20 per hour for Primary, £25 for up to GCSE and £30 per hour for A levels.....You can do it directly at the cost to students/parents, or through the local education authority for students who are home long term sick etc. Or better still - offer group sessions of five students at a discounted rate - £5 off per hour - and hold the sessions at the local library. Never a reason for a good teacher not to be able to make money - particularly this time of year (unless of course there is a genuine reason you cannot teach).

deb0020

Leviathan2009 wrote: »

What an awful experience. Although the staff at the job center are very nice. I have had nothing but hastle from back off staff in regards to assessing my claim. They continue not to accept any documentation I have submitted - even though it was certified by the bank.

I am a trained teacher - but just to get away from signing on I have accepted an office job. I haven't even received a penny in in job seekers allowance or housing benefit and council tax. If they dare cast this up to me years from now - even though I didn't get a penny - I will cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

Accepted an office job my Goodness how awful:rolleyes:.
Oh but wait a minute those 'back off staff' are doing an office job aren't they?
Perhaps they prefer to receive a low wage and abuse from their customers rather than signing on.
I think that many of them have to put up with more personal and specific threats than 'let slip the dogs of war'

pupsicola

Leviathan2009 wrote: »

Its not aggression - its just because I write what I think. There are plenty of "yes" men/women in here that you can socialise with.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

willa

Wow. Yet another thread where someone just communicating like a human being has been gang-jumped on aggressively while being accused of aggression. The so called regulars and experts on here should try being a bit more objective and a little less touchy and egotistical when giving their advice. People aren't getting irked because they 'don't like' your advice! It might help if you stop trying trying to prove that people are liars! If people have negative preconceptions about DWP employees maybe try to not reinforce the stereotype! And I've noticed that some of you aren't so hot on grammar and spelling yourselves! But nice people don't tend to point that out in the way one of you has just done on this thread!

c0113tt3

Quoted from Martin : This board is here for help and support for those on or looking to claim benefits, not for judgement.

Hmm, there is definately judgement in this thread.

[Deleted User]

AnxiousMum wrote: »

Right now you could be working your socks off with private tutoring. At £20 per hour for Primary, £25 for up to GCSE and £30 per hour for A levels.....You can do it directly at the cost to students/parents, or through the local education authority for students who are home long term sick etc. Or better still - offer group sessions of five students at a discounted rate - £5 off per hour - and hold the sessions at the local library. Never a reason for a good teacher not to be able to make money - particularly this time of year (unless of course there is a genuine reason you cannot teach).

It's that easy is it? You have personal experience of doing this? Believe me it realy is not that easy. Judgements are not nice.

The facts....With the Government advertising for, dishing out bursaries and pushing thousands of students through PGCE each year as you can imagine there are hundreds of applicants for each teaching job. Applicants the schools/colleges/LEA doesn’t want to employ because teacher education does not stop at uni. They must complete a NQT period at the employers cost and time. Adverts often say NO NQT
LEA's don’t employ teachers to support students through A Levels and GCSE's and off sick, they use teachers already employed in schools and SP Ed schools, or give them no education at all, shocking but true.

To get customers as an individual private tutor, on a self employed basis you need to have a good record, in schools/colleges to show parents to make them want to employ you to teach their children. That means getting a job to start with, which as explained is hard with the numbers leaving uni each year at the gov' insistence.

My DH finished his PGCE in 2006 and only got a job this year. Out of his class from that year only 3 out of 35 are teaching. And the Government claim we have a teacher shortage. We don’t have a teacher shortage, we have a shortage of schools/colleges who will willingly employ and finish educating NQT.

willa

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Surely correct English should be second nature to a teacher, not an optional add on in certain circumstances!

Quite a few of the gang on here don't seem to be aware of their own frequent howlers and omissions. :D

catenorfolk

redz wrote: »

Hardly, I believe you still need graduate and post-graduate qualifications to gain entry to the teaching profession. Whereas some office jobs only require you to pass a basic literacy and numeracy test.

So if you need graduate and post graduate degrees to become a teacher, how come half the kids these days cant read or write properly when they leave school, despite having all the wonderful computers and teaching aids!!!

LittleMissAspie

I think he meant that the office job was a last resort because it's not the same type of career. You wouldn't expect, for example, an accountant to take a job as an HR manager and I don't suppose taking a job outside of your career looks very good on the CV.