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Do you ever feel like you are always the one in the wrong/think differently?

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  • freakyogre
    freakyogre Posts: 1,465 Forumite
    Being the said sister I am (but not) surprised by some of the responses on the other site.

    Surprised as some of them do not seem to see your point of view at all. Not surprised as that seems to be the attitude of a lot of parents these days unfortunately.

    They see their child hanging over the neighbours fence and think it's cute. It possibly is for all of 5 minutes. After that it is their job to stop their child from doing it. Why should you have to stop using your own garden because a parent can't control their child?

    You know my opinion on this so i'm not going to ramble anymore.

    PS. Nice barbeque, shame about the strange thing hanging over your fence all afternoon ;)
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  • SugarSpun
    SugarSpun Posts: 8,559 Forumite
    However if my child were to bump into somebody by accident (certainly wouldn't be my child on heely's in a supermarket cos that's just an accident waiting to happen in my opinion - as are heely's in the wrong hands or feet :D should I say) then I would reprimand my child appropriately and ensure an apology was offered.
    I think if the victim of the accident didn't allow me to do this or referred to my child as a brat or an idiot I might take exception (not saying this was the case with you Sugarspun and I can well imagine the parents who wouldn't displicine their children)

    I don't believe that children are always at fault when they misbehave in public - they're so easily distracted that they can do stupid things simply through not realising what they're doing. That's why they should be supervised.

    I didn't call the child a brat or the parent an idiot, although the child's mother was clearly unimpressed and allowed the child to Heely off with impunity so afterwards I kind of wished I'd yelled at the mother. Kids need to be supervised and disciplined, and their being told to apologise after misbehaving is totally acceptable. Being told that other people need to accommodate their need to play with inappropriate toys in a place where they could injure someone else just sends them the wrong message and it infuriates me.

    The same with kids hanging over the garden fence. When I was a kid the girl who lived in the house directly behind was always climbing into our garden uninvited because I had toys and she didn't. Her parents were of the opinion that I shouldn't be allowed to play with my stuff in front of her because she didn't have the same things and it wasn't fair. I spent a lot of time inside because the kid's idea of playing was "breaking my stuff on purpose" and the kid's parents wouldn't discipline her.

    I'm not anti-kid, just anti-bad parenting.
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  • gabyjane
    gabyjane Posts: 3,541 Forumite
    Lol thanks hun!! i agree suprisingly!
  • Yeah I've got a wee girl of 17months and another due in 4weeks.
    My daughter has never spent a night away from me (the only night she's spend away from her dad was when he left the hosp to go home) as I firmly believe that kids are the parents responsibility.

    I believe that kids are the parents responsibility - surely it's not that unusual though for a child of 17 months to have never spent a night away?
    Do you mean young children that may stay with a grandparent or relative?
    Or something else?

    DS is 6 and he is off to beaver camp this Sunday for an overnight stay and will be the first time he's spent a night away from either myself or his father - I am worrying about him as he seems so young - he however is looking forward to it but I'm sure I won't sleep a wink :D
  • gabyjane
    gabyjane Posts: 3,541 Forumite
    Sugarspun your last sentence sums it up perfectly with me!!
  • MrsTinks
    MrsTinks Posts: 15,238 Forumite
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    Whilst I don't plan to "palm" off my child on anyone then I do think that some "mummy and daddy" time is vital... Not saying it would be a regular occurance but yes certainly I'd from time to time let friends I trust babysit my child from early on to go out even if only for a quick dinner with hubby...
    My parents did this from early on and later they would let me fly on my own from one end of the country to the other when they divorced and I was about 5... I like to think that I grew up a very confident child as a result :) I don't think there is a right or wrong really, just different views and so long as the child is loved and safe either is fine :)
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  • angelicmary85
    angelicmary85 Posts: 4,977 Forumite
    I believe that kids are the parents responsibility - surely it's not that unusual though for a child of 17 months to have never spent a night away?
    Do you mean young children that may stay with a grandparent or relative?
    Or something else?

    DS is 6 and he is off to beaver camp this Sunday for an overnight stay and will be the first time he's spent a night away from either myself or his father - I am worrying about him as he seems so young - he however is looking forward to it but I'm sure I won't sleep a wink :D


    I just meant that some kids don't have much stability which may be why they are the way that they are which in my opinion, is the fault of the parents.
    A friend of mine dropped her daughter of 9months off at her granny's house for a week...my friends mum stays nearly 300miles away!
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  • xmaslolly76
    xmaslolly76 Posts: 3,974 Forumite
    Dont get me started on manners some children just have no respect what so ever for anything or anybody. I have always bought my two up to say please and thank you and to be respectfull to everyone but it would seem the majority dont these days its a crying shame as manners dont cost anything.

    P.s I hid my kids heelys flaming lethal things they are and they were never allowed to wear them when we went out just for playing in the street when it was quiet.
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  • Loopy_Lobes
    Loopy_Lobes Posts: 575 Forumite
    gabyjane, I have posted on the 'other site' in support of you! :D You do have some positive replies over there. I won't pop my user name on here as it's my real name.

    I have three children and would never let them peer over other peoples fences and would take 'a fence' (lol) at my neighbours children hanging over my fence. I really value my privacy and respect other peoples privacy too.

    I am shocked at how parents just say 'oh they're just kids' as an excuse for bad/unwanted behaviour nowdays. We all think our own kids are the bees knees but that doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same!
  • SugarSpun wrote: »
    I don't believe that children are always at fault when they misbehave in public - they're so easily distracted that they can do stupid things simply through not realising what they're doing. That's why they should be supervised.

    I didn't call the child a brat or the parent an idiot, although the child's mother was clearly unimpressed and allowed the child to Heely off with impunity so afterwards I kind of wished I'd yelled at the mother. Kids need to be supervised and disciplined, and their being told to apologise after misbehaving is totally acceptable. Being told that other people need to accommodate their need to play with inappropriate toys in a place where they could injure someone else just sends them the wrong message and it infuriates me.

    The same with kids hanging over the garden fence. When I was a kid the girl who lived in the house directly behind was always climbing into our garden uninvited because I had toys and she didn't. Her parents were of the opinion that I shouldn't be allowed to play with my stuff in front of her because she didn't have the same things and it wasn't fair. I spent a lot of time inside because the kid's idea of playing was "breaking my stuff on purpose" and the kid's parents wouldn't discipline her.

    I'm not anti-kid, just anti-bad parenting.

    No I didn't think you had called the child names :D your story just reminded me of when DD accidentially bumped in to a lady in the supermarket (wasn't looking where she was going) and the woman called her a ***ing little idiot - I still got her to apologise to the 'lady' for not looking where she was going but then we had to have a little chat after about the use of foul language (she was only 4 at the time luckily so the effect wasn't massive)
    However on the bus the other day there were some teenagers drinking and swearing and I was just trying to talk loudly to distract my 2 children and play it down.
    I thought the incident had gone relatively unnoticed but as we got off the bus my daughter turned to me and said 'thank goodness for that mum - those people on that bus were really unpleasant' - I didn't comment but had to suppress a little smile.

    Agree with your last sentence entirely!
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