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New Halifax Cashback Debit Card launches Feb

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  • Paul_Varjak
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    I have both a Halifax debit card (which currently gives no cashback) and a Halifax credit card which, I think currently, gives 0.25% cashback.

    So, on the face of it, I should get one of the new Halifax cashback cards (if it is available to existing customers) and use it instead of my credit card.

    But with my credit card I also get the protection of that wonderful S.75 of the Consumer Credit Act if my purchase is over £100. I don't get that with a debit card (unless, of course, the new Halifax debit card is actually a VISA debit card - VISA do offer protection similar to S.75 in their terms and conditions but I guess it may be harder to enforce than an Act of Parliament!)

    But even if it were a VISA debit card, my Halifax Current account pays 3% interest, so why not leave the money there earning 3% for a few weeks (before my credit card bill is paid) rather than pay for purchases immediately!

    Of course, some outlets (e.g. ALDI & LIDL) only accept debit cards, so it may be useful there. And some people may not be able to get a credit card anyway so it could be useful to them, providing of course such people can even get a bank account!

    There are BASIC Bank Accounts that the big banks have to provide but I bet if Halifax have a BASIC Bank Account available for those on low incomes or poor credit history I bet the cashback card will not be available to them!

    By the way, I did listen to the Working Lunch programme about VISA debit cards and what the HBOS Press Officer says appears correct to me
  • On Martin's first post on this subject he quoted that the A&L Premier Account requires £1000 per month salary paid in. Their bumpf actually says £1000 funding, it does not mention salary. Can anyone clarify?

    It makes a difference because you could just move £1k in each month, use the overdraft facility, which they give you at 0% interest for a year, and pay the £1k back out to say a savings account.

    You could then use the freebies on this account - such as the annual worldwide travel insurance.
    I am NOT a mortgage & insurance adviser - or anything to do with finance, that was put on by the new system I dont know why?!
  • student100
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    celt wrote:
    Good question, I would guess it would be 80p As I am sure the banks only see supermarket as a payment.

    I would be interested in hearing the answer.

    Celt

    I think there is a distinction between Payment and Cashback as regards to supermarket transactions. Back in the days when I had a NatWest account, the statement would show two lines; one for the card payment and one for the cashback. So I guess you'd only get cashback (in the other sense) from the Halifax on the actual payment.
    student100 hasn't been a student since 2007...
  • On Martin's first post on this subject he quoted that the A&L Premier Account requires £1000 per month salary paid in. Their bumpf actually says £1000 funding, it does not mention salary. Can anyone clarify?

    It makes a difference because you could just move £1k in each month, use the overdraft facility, which they give you at 0% interest for a year, and pay the £1k back out to say a savings account.

    You could then use the freebies on this account - such as the annual worldwide travel insurance.

    I believe that A&L have T&C's preventing you from benfitting from the higher interest rate by moving money from one account to another. Halifax (who I bank with) do not have such rules.
  • grumbler
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    ...my Halifax Current account pays 3% interest, so why not leave the money there earning 3% for a few weeks (before my credit card bill is paid) rather than pay for purchases immediately!
    You must leave the money for at least 5 months (for taxpayer) on your 3% current account to earn equivalent of 1% cashback.
    ... the A&L Premier Account requires £1000 per month salary paid in. Their bumpf actually says £1000 funding, it does not mention salary. Can anyone clarify?

    It makes a difference because you could just move £1k in each month, use the overdraft facility, which they give you at 0% interest for a year, and pay the £1k back out to say a savings account.

    You could then use the freebies on this account - such as the annual worldwide travel insurance.
    I do not pay my salary into A&L Premier Account. Just transfer £1000 monthly from other bank. I do not use overdraft, but have the high interest rate and the annual worldwide travel insurance.
  • grumbler wrote:
    You must leave the money for at least 5 months (for taxpayer) on your 3% current account to earn equivalent of 1% cashback.

    Oh dear, silly Me!
  • So does that mean that the £1k funding each month does not have to be salary?
    I am NOT a mortgage & insurance adviser - or anything to do with finance, that was put on by the new system I dont know why?!
  • student100
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    grumbler wrote:
    You must leave the money for at least 5 months (for taxpayer) on your 3% current account to earn equivalent of 1% cashback.

    Yes, but that's missing the point. If you spend on a Credit Card with 1% cashback, AND keep the money in a current account earning 3% interest for on average a month before paying off the CC, you will still be better off.
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  • Paul_Varjak
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    student100 wrote:
    Yes, but that's missing the point. If you spend on a Credit Card with 1% cashback, AND keep the money in a current account earning 3% interest for on average a month before paying off the CC, you will still be better off.

    Although I also agree with your point, Grumbler was also right in correcting my error - because I had made one!

    Interestingly, the Halifax debit card actually pays more than its credit card, 1% compared to 0.25%!
  • grumbler
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    So does that mean that the £1k funding each month does not have to be salary?
    On the whole most of my money comes from salary. However, the salary is paid to the Barclays account. Then I transfer £1K monthly to A&L from Barclays or from other account. Once I made transfer too early and as a result £1K was credited to the A&L at the end of the previous month instead of the beginning of the new month as I intended. I was not sure what to do in such a situation. As I did not have another £1000 that time, just in case I moved £1K back from A&L and then transferred to A&L again.

    This is just my experience. I am not aware about anything regarding salary in the A&L T&C. I beleive that if you manage to open this account you can maintain it even without any salary or income - just by moving money in a circle.
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