Advice on Teeth Whitening Discussion Thread

welshdent

Berba you do know that toothpaste has fluoride in dont you? :-)

System

Toothsmith, I mean fluoride, an easy mistake. are you happy now? Good.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fluorideharm.html Here is the evidence Toothsmith.

Not the mypure one welshdent. It is all good stuff, hence the price. I recommend it, although it is like jelly so I tend to break it up using my tongue and then brush. It doesn't foam up a lot like the supermarket ones. I would especially recommend for any children as it has no flouride or SLS(the foaming agent that causes blindness in children), found in all supermarket toothpastes and soaps. The supermarket toothpastes are a con. I also recommend swishing teeth with virgin organic coconut oil, it makes my gums feel very healthy.

brook2jack

berbastrike wrote: »

Flouride is also toxic inside of us.

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Shame that as it is utterly impossible to eat a diet that is fluoride free. Tea is naturally high in it,meat,fish,eggs ,vegetables contain it particularly root veggies and virtually all water naturally has some fluoride in it.

In America fluoride is part of the RDA recommended dietary allowance ie it is recognised as an essential part of a nutritious diet like other essential vitamins and minerals.

brook2jack

berbastrike wrote: »

Toothsmith, I mean fluoride, an easy mistake. are you happy now? Good.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fluorideharm.html Here is the evidence Toothsmith.

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You might want to read this from a site that has done alot to balance views on alot of interesting debates
http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html

You might also want to research the quack o meter on oil pulling!

hightara

(NaturalNews) Isn`t it odd that a substance that is claimed to reduce tooth decay actually causes white spotted, yellow, brown teeth and even pitted teeth? The truth is, even for what fluoride is purported to do, it doesn`t work very well. The other truth is, dental fluorosis, or these spots or pitted teeth, is a sign of fluoride poisoning, and according to the CDC, dental fluorosis now affects 41 percent of adolescents. The sad thing about fluoride poisoning is that it goes far beyond the damage to our teeth. Consuming fluoride negatively affects our brains and bones, and fluoride has even been found to make us statically less intelligent. It`s implicated in dozens of serious diseases, and the only bright side is that consumers and the public are starting to fight back.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033965_fluoride_lawsuits.html#ixzz1crD9OI3g


one source;)

System

brook2jack wrote: »

Shame that as it is utterly impossible to eat a diet that is fluoride free. Tea is naturally high in it,meat,fish,eggs ,vegetables contain it particularly root veggies and virtually all water naturally has some fluoride in it.

In America fluoride is part of the RDA recommended dietary allowance ie it is recognised as an essential part of a nutritious diet like other essential vitamins and minerals.

Maybe, these foods have 2 ppm fluoride maximum.

Toothpaste has 1400ppm.

hightara

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/

dont get me started on the F.D.A :mad:

System

What toothpaste do you use hightara?

The only one that is flouride free in the supermarket is Euthymol I think.

DirtyDick

There is an Australian brand called Brilliant Smile (or similar); a spray-on tooth whitener that really works very well. I used to use it when I smoked. It was about £18 a (c.250ml) bottle, a simple liquid, that lasted about 6 months a bottle.

Not sure how widely available it is for sale in the UK, but it was about 5 years back, but it really worked very well (almost too well, giving a Hollywood smile).

Toothsmith

berbastrike wrote: »

Toothsmith, I mean fluoride, an easy mistake. are you happy now? Good.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fluorideharm.html Here is the evidence Toothsmith.

OK, that's an article - not evidence.

But even so - have you actually read it?

That is an article against putting fluoride in the water supply, which is a completely seperate issue. (And one that I personally believe much of the need for now has passed)

But even in that article we have this paragraph

Topical fluoride kills decay-causing bacteria.

There is some evidence that fluoride retards the development or the activity of decay-causing bacteria. All living cells, whether human, animal, vegetable or bacterial, are extremely sensitive to fluoride which, above a certain concentration, is extremely poisonous. At levels as low as 0.19 ppm (parts per million) fluoride interferes with certain of the S. mutans bacterium's essential metabolic enzymes; between 4 and 20 ppm it can cause S. mutans to mutate; and at 20 ppm or above it is lethal to the bacterium. Thus fluoride, a powerful antibacterial agent can be painted onto teeth (this is called a topical application) to kill the bacteria there. Toothbrushing with a fluoridated toothpaste, or a fluoride mouthwash, do the same job.

So - your 'evidence' for avoiding fluoride toothpaste - or rather, the article you based your viewpoint on - actually promotes fluoride toothpaste!

I would agree with that article in that the evidence for fluoride toothpaste and topical fluoride preventing tooth decay is much more clear cut than the current evidence for fluoride in the water supply.

But if people are encouraged to throw out fluoride toothpaste, then it will be a huge backward step for the dental heath of the country.

I think you need to read that article properly, get your facts straight (as well as your spelling) and then apologise to anyone who you might have put off using a fluoride toothpaste.

Maybe even offer to pay for their kids future dental care.