Advice on Teeth Whitening Discussion Thread

System

brook2jack wrote: »

"natural" toothpastes have hundreds of years of experience to show they don't work.

Nonsense!!!

Toothsmith

berbastrike wrote: »

Not as bad as all the shiny packaging, "advanced whitening", "enamelock", "active micro cleansing crystals", "Whitening microparticles", "Dissolvable Cooling Crystals" crap found in the supermarket.

Found in the supermarket, used in the bathroom then get washed into the sea, where everything goes in the end, along the same pipe as the toilet!!

brook2jack

The number cause of death mentioned in records in Britain from the sixteenth to eighteenth century was tooth decay and the infections related to it.
Read through the list of ingredients used in past times for toothpaste and chalk (calcium carbonate) Rosemary, thyme, spearmint,clove,cinnamon, myrrh, parsley,salt, alcohol such as brandy, lemon, grapefruit, neem, all have featured along with, in ancient times, some more interesting ingredients such as powdered mummy , bird droppings.

Many of these appear ,coincidentally , in your £6 tube of toothpaste.

Toothsmith

berbastrike wrote: »

Nonsense!!!

From the man who doesn't even read the articles properly!

System

brook2jack wrote: »

The number cause of death mentioned in records in Britain from the sixteenth to eighteenth century was tooth decay and the infections related to it.
Read through the list of ingredients used in past times for toothpaste and chalk (calcium carbonate) Rosemary, thyme, spearmint,clove,cinnamon, myrrh, parsley,salt, alcohol such as brandy, lemon, grapefruit, neem, all have featured along with, in ancient times, some more interesting ingredients such as powdered mummy , bird droppings.

Many of these appear ,coincidentally , in your £6 tube of toothpaste.

I use this toothpaste for two years and no tartar any more, and pinker gums, and no funny feeling in my stomach that I get after using a flouride toothpaste.

I say £6 is a lot, but peace of mind I am using natural products that work amazingly well.

brook2jack

Fluoride does nothing to gums good or bad and neither does any toothpaste "natural" or "artificial". The only thing that gives you healthy gums and no tartar is physically removing the plaque. You have pink healthy gums because you are now brushing well, not because of any toothpaste.

Fluoride helps to control decay not gum disease.

Toothsmith

berbastrike wrote: »

I use this toothpaste for two years and no tartar any more, and pinker gums, and no funny feeling in my stomach that I get after using a flouride toothpaste.

I say £6 is a lot, but peace of mind I am using natural products that work amazingly well.

You do know you're not supposed to eat it don't you?

A pea sized bit at 1450ppm fluoride when most of it is spat out would have such a tiny amount of fluoride in it that any that happened to get down to your gut would be extremely unlikely to affect it.

There is a table here made by an anti-water fluoride group, of the fluoride content of a lot of food and drink.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/Fluoride/F02.pdf

As you can see, there is practically nothing you can eat that is fluoride-free!

So compared to the tiny trace of fluoride that would make it to your gut from brushing your teeth (assuming you DO spit out!), the amount that would get down there from drinking a cup of tea is a hugely massive dose!

The funny feeling in your tummy is not due to fluoride.

Toothsmith

Or possibly the Aloe Vera!

Strange that the man who spends £6 a tube on medieval toothpaste was looking to save money on dental floss a few days ago!

berbastrike wrote: »

I have tried Oral B Essential floss which is good but it doubled in price to £2.

I think its also Oral B who do the satin floss but this hurts my gums.

The best floss I have used was the Colgate total floss which I picked up around 10 packs for 50p each in Morrisons but they were a clearance item.

I don't want to pay more than £1 for 50m.

What do you guys use?

Flossing is so good.

hightara

thanks everyone for the insight

i will stick to what i know then but i will still be staying well clear of fluoride

after reading up on cancer treatments, i have completely changed my diet etc

mind you its a mine field of contradictory information, sifting through it is very time consuming. :eek:

brook2jack

Thank you for a civilised discussion. We fundamentally disagree but you didnt feel the need to resort to rudeness unlike the poster whose comments were deleted earlier.