Car scrappage petition

thescouselander

This scrappage idea is a bad idea and will hit the poor hardest. Also I'm sure lots of people on here drive old but perfectly serviceable cars because they don't want to spend a lot on a car. If people go buying up older cars so they can trade them in to be scrapped then how will people who cant afford a newer car buy one?

Basically if you follow things to their logical conclusion the cheapest car you will be able to buy will cost £2000 (assuming the scheme was on-going). Is that really what we want?

dacouch

Thats one of the other drawbacks of this scheme hewhoisnotintheknow, if this scheme comes in the dealers will be less likely to haggle so to some extent will use this £2000 to bump up their profits. The other drawback is that surely the price of really cheap cars will go up as there will suddenly be an increased demand for them where people go out to buy a cheap car with T&T so they can then trade this in to get their £2000. So the people who buy really cheap cars as run arounds will find the prices go up for them

neviboss1

We're probably looking at another Vauxhall,or maybe a ford,but it's not cast in stone!

Unfortunately a lot of the cheap runarounds are not road worthy, I was in Tescos car park a couple of weeks ago and saw an old golf with the windscreen held in with parcel tape!

Sidmon

neviboss1 wrote: »

Hi guys,we really need to get behind this petition for car scrappage.

You can register your vote here:-http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/scrappagescheme/

Here's hoping!

Martin could you please put this in next weeks email, because it will save us money!

Neviboss1

Never heard so much codswallop in all my life, buying a new car = moneysaving? May as well get your savings into a giant bundle and set fire to it! Least the German's have their own car industry, we're just the sweatshop for the rest of the world nowadays so this incentive will merely assist foreign companies in selling more cars that they overprice for the British market anyway.

The old adage "sell for what you can get" is apt, before Government taxation we have the most expensive cars in Europe! How about they stop taking the p*ss out of UK consumers in charging so much in the first place, maybe then we'd be more inclined to buy new! :money:

Volcano

neviboss1 wrote: »

Unfortunately a lot of the cheap runarounds are not road worthy,

Really? Gosh, I thought that was the point of the MOT? We need more proof! Have you got any?

I was in Tescos car park a couple of weeks ago and saw an old golf with the windscreen held in with parcel tape!

Oh well that settles it! How can we disagree in the face of such overwhelming evidence?

The petition was started by a company that would benefit from increased sales of cars. Now I don't want to be cynical but..........

neviboss1

Sidmon wrote: »

Never heard so much codswallop in all my life, buying a new car = moneysaving? May as well get your savings into a giant bundle and set fire to it! Least the German's have their own car industry, we're just the sweatshop for the rest of the world nowadays so this incentive will merely assist foreign companies in selling more cars that they overprice for the British market anyway.

The old adage "sell for what you can get" is apt, before Government taxation we have the most expensive cars in Europe! How about they stop taking the p*ss out of UK consumers in charging so much in the first place, maybe then we'd be more inclined to buy new! :money:

If you think cars are expensive here then I suggest you go to France or Eire and look at car prices! Even if you use the old exchange rate of 1.4 euros to the pound!

Also electrical items such as LCD tvs and home appliances are very expensive elsewhere in europe, I looked at a Sony 32" in an Auchan superstore in September(when the exchange rate was 1.24e to £1 and I could buy it NEARLY £200 cheaper in the UK with a 5 year warranty included! And you think we're being ripped off!

I'll_Be_Frank

neviboss1 wrote: »

Most of the cars, we would be buying, are already built and sitting in giant car parks, here in the uk!

I don't think so. If what happened in under the German
scrappage scheme is any guide. The demographic that took
advantage of their scheme generally bought small engined,
small bodied vehicles like the Ka that they could just about
afford to pay to finance on. The giant car parks of which you
write are still full to the brim of mid-sized family saloons.

Why do you think buyers taking advantage in the U.K. would
be any different? If they own an older car with a trade-in
value of less than £2k, then they're hardly likely to have the
money to purchase anything more than a Base-level small
car. Are they?

As I wrote previously; The small cars that were bought, were
mostly imported and did little to assist the indigenous German
car workers. So why do you think it would help those in the U.K.?

And apart from your own self-interest; Why should the U.K.
car industry be helped at the expense of other manufacturers?

Frank.

neviboss1

The thing everybody is forgetting the whole principle of this site is to save money!

The benefit is to people who need to replace their car(surely people are not going to shell out £5k plus on a new car just because they're saving money on it?).

The other thing if people do buy smaller more frugal cars,they will pay LESS car tax, LESS fuel tax and LESS car insurance.

Regarding helping the car industry, there are approximately 800,000 people employed in the car industry, it may not seem that many,but if they closed down,every industry would suffer, it has a knock on effect,even down to the local pub where the lads go and get plastered at the end of the week!

neviboss1

uktyler wrote: »

But surely the non drivers will lose out?

They end up paying more tax to fund others buying cars.

The poor won't benefit at all.

No if the scheme is funded by the VAT on the extra cars sold then,those who don't drive won't suffer.

Pssst

I wont be voting for it. Its a con,a waste and an environmental crime to encourage the waste of perfectly serviceable vehicles and the useage of raw materials to produce replacements.