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UK Stockmarket 2009 and beyond

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  • uk_steve
    uk_steve Posts: 375 Forumite
    tonygee wrote: »
    SOLD AQP BRE &NFDS
    should be picked up cheaper again soon


    when did you buy NFDS?


    i have 1 green today woohhooo!!!



    my gemd (it allways does me well:T) but i am holding onto it for a bit longer


    i have a few nr back at purchase price now

    come on lets have a good week;)
    Oh well we only live once ;-)
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    Yea Its amazing how quick the sun comes out, I thought they'd be a bounce at some point but this is pretty quick. No clouds on the horizon is there :confused:

    Hehe, it's all just a numbers game, DAX testing the right shoulder currently
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
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    Usa has its biggest rise since March 23rd today, rough estimate for ftse open is 4362

    Here is a round up of what gained most, intel heads the list

    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/INDU?siteid=bnbh


    Massive fakeout or confirmation that 930 is strong till year end?
    Im not sure but 'biggest rise' appearing on top of a rally sounds a note for caution to me.

    A broad rally defys the nature of these specialist companies, the gap between good and bad should widen but it seems to be the opposite right now.
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    edited 15 July 2009 at 10:30PM
    Monster rally 3% more or less across the board on US exchanges, 2.5% for the FTSE puts the bulls back in the driving seat. A shut your eyes, hit the buy button and hope the trend doesn't reverse before you get comfy :) not a pullback in sight. Gold had a big pop as well along with other commodities. Pick up in volume, not huge,but a pickup none the less suggesting new money may be coming in.

    Volume pickup.
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    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2009 at 7:11AM
    Massive fakeout or confirmation that 930 is strong till year end?
    Im not sure but 'biggest rise' appearing on top of a rally sounds a note for caution to me.
    Big week for the major indices now, we are currently in the test of the H&S pattern, ordinarily I would expect a failure of that test, but in the midst of earnings, the FED printing money, etc, who knows. It will make things interesting if nothing else. Earnings of note today: Nokia, Google, IBM, and JP Morgan.
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 12,492 Forumite
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    I`m back out from behind a cushion and happy to see the portfolio positive again. Phew that was some rockin rollin ride. I didn`t have to use the sickbag because ukx pretty well held onto the 200 day MA. I`m back to thinking that the next target (don`t know when) will be 4500 as long as the 50 day MA holds at 4296 ish and that has got to be eod and not a flash in the pan for just a minute
  • browniej
    browniej Posts: 256 Forumite
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    kittie wrote: »
    I`m back out from behind a cushion and happy to see the portfolio positive again.

    I thought your SIPP made 16% in the last 2 years? Do you not count this as part of your portfolio?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 12,492 Forumite
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    edited 16 July 2009 at 1:17PM
    yes it did and it is and by positive I mean positive wrt its all time high just before this last dip so it is now higher again. A portfolio like ours has the potential for movement but with a good steady core that provides dividends, which of course adds to the portfolio value year on year

    more explanation: the pot is divided up and spread amongst various asset classes. Prefs, pibs, good solid steady major stocks with good yields and just a few more `risky` stocks. I have had some cash in from dividends this week and from last night the porfolio increased on value by 3k today. This minute as ukx is up 8 points, I have 13 stocks in positive territory, 2 neutral and 6 negative. This is due to the defensive nature of this beast. It will be different when cyclicals take over the march upwards but I`ll play things as they come. Never say never

    oh and this being a vested sipp which now has to provide income from next year, the increase in value is paper only and not realised as cash. That is why I can mentally ride the waves, although I do leave the screen when it gets choppy. The income as cash will purely be provided by yield and not by cashing in the golden goose
  • uk_steve
    uk_steve Posts: 375 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2009 at 2:27PM
    kittie wrote: »
    That is why I can mentally ride the waves, although I do leave the screen when it gets choppy. The income as cash will purely be provided by yield and not by cashing in the golden goose


    thats something i need to do with my new portfolio i am building


    all i have been doing is buying and selling over the last 4 mths



    I am now learning i was proberly better off keeping stock i had with divideds
    because the returns are good in the 1st place

    mind you saying that i sold gemd today



    its all learning for me
    Oh well we only live once ;-)
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
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    edited 16 July 2009 at 3:16PM
    Buying and selling every dip & rise is the most profitable thing, just its hard to do. If this is a bull market then buy and hold makes more sense or Im thinking of trying to buy cheaper value stocks and retain a small amount of any profit in shares


    Theres still a couple massive companies paying healthy dividends, I guess this means the market can continue to rise

    If dollar index falls theres no pressure on stocks. The crb in pounds is still near its lows, I think theres value in some stocks just so long as eps forecast is realistic
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