Teachers demand 10% pay rise

TEDDYRUKSPIN

I believe everyone is trying to say that at this time asking for a payrise is taking the big 'P'. Teachers, nurses, doctors and the police are way overpaid compared to other countries. Compare the salaries to like Australia and you know what I mean.

Teachers have recently obtained a decent payrise and now being greedy. You all get the summer and other holidays off as well. As for Lindsay saying that you doing work after work, so do many other people who earn an average of £22k and above. Nothing is free. I can also tell you that you do have it easy than most people. I have friends in teaching and they love it. They came from other jobs that paid £30k a year and completely hated it. They moved to teaching and just on a starting salary of £22k. Then this quickly rised to £30k as you took on more responsibility etc.

Average salary for a teacher is roughly £30k per year. It is up to you to take on more responsibility. If you are depressed in your current school, you should study to gain more responsibility and then move to another school who will up your pay.

Head teachers are even on the £60k plus.

So stop moaning. Live with it!

The average salary is now only £16k.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

TEDDYRUKSPIN wrote: »

The average salary is now only £16k.

Link please....

VfM4meplse

TEDDYRUKSPIN wrote: »

Head teachers are even on the £60k plus..

Actually I think you'll find Heads of Dept in London secondary schools are on c£55k so you can see why bad peple hang on by the skin of their teeth. Good heads earn a great deal more, and deservedly so because they are effectively business managers.

None of which means that it is appropiate to ask for a raise at this time. Maybe economics teachers would like to explain to the NUT exactly what stagflation is, English teachers could contribute further to the debate by defining the following words: "greedy" "blinkered" "selfish".

VfM

baby_boomer

VfM4meplse wrote: »

Everyone else is performance managed on results. But not teachers it seems.

I have to disagree.

The quality of national education as measured by GCSE & A-Level grades has grown at a staggering rate :cool:

They should get 20%!

Seriously, in an age where authority has vanished as a concept unless you create it on the ground, every single lesson, who would want to spend hours of their day responsible for modern teenagers?

jamespmg44

lindsaygalaxy wrote: »

Sorry I dont agree with the comments on here. Im a trainee primary teacher and teachers are some of the hardest working people I have. It is no 9-5 job, it is 7am - 11pm job, plus weekends, plus some of the holidays. People see teachers as having it easy with the 'long' holidays - but you dnot get to enjoy half of them as you are busy planning, assessing, marking etc. Teachers have to prove themselves in their job like everyone else, they get observed in school and externally and need to meet the grade. As a teacher there is no moment to cut off it is very different to other professions. 10% may seem a lot but they deserve it, after all, if it was so easy why does everyone not become one? I also think other professions deserve it too, such as nurses or carers.

I'm sorry, but no profession deserves a 10% pay increase across the board.

A substantial pay rise like that should only be awarded to the absolute top performers, not across the board.

Also - how do you know it's very different to other professions - i'm an engineer and am basically on call 24/7 so where's my moment to cut off?

Rochdale_Pioneers

I think its a great idea. Lets all have a 10% pay rise and wallow in all that extra cash we'll have when prices rise by 15% as a consequence.

lostinrates

VfM4meplse wrote: »

10% over 5 years would seem eminently reasonable.

I'll agree if the next years show stable, sustainable economic growth. Its not a question of the worth of teachers, its a question of how empty the coiffers are.

baby_boomer

The Bank of England Pension fund has just bought index linked gilts for 70% of its money.

10% over 5 years may end up losing pots of money.

Not that the unions wouldn't try to renegotiate if inflation did go up to 5% .

alipops1986

I think Lindsey and myself are possibly fighting our cause because we have just come through the teacher training route and have been put right through the mill!

I have got EIGHT folders of paperwork that the government require for me to pass, i'm doing more lessons than alot of teachers, i am helping to put together residential weekends for students (which i get no extra dollar for taking on the reponsibility and accompanying the students, because there isn't an endless pot for most schools!), i am assessed continuously through - lessons, paperwork, essays and tutorial reports.

I am 120% enthausiastic and enjoy the job. However, I have worked in a special school for teenagers who have behavioural and emotional difficulties - are extremely violent in some cases needing physical restraint. Those members of staff get upto 8k more than mainstream teachers, because of the conditions they are in.
Yet, in mainstream schools and particularly mine we have students who have those issues but cannot get into special school. The difference being I cater for those students along with the 29 others as best as i can, but i get no premium at all!

Yes, it's swings and roundabouts. However, there are some measures than could be taken to recoup money from these special educational areas to put back into the mainstream system, where there is a true mixture of needs and requirements. Thus, teachers should be paid accordingly.

leveller2911

Teachers need to get a grip, wake up and smell the coffee.They ARE well paid and have so much holiday time a year its a joke.They chose to become teachers and accept the terms and conditions when they sign up.
We are not even in the middle yet of a recession where thousands are losing thier jobs and Union wants 10% !!!!!!.
Lets NOT forget teachers and other local government are responsible for taking 25% of our council tax we pay to "prop up" their pensions.

Am I right in thinking they also retire earlier than most people do????.

They want to STOP moaning and do what theyre paid for.........TEACH:rolleyes: