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kelloggs36

across wrote: »

why would it affect my children? the school would provide a supply teacher so it is fine by me i'm quite an easy going person i never get stressed out about simple things in life.just as long as they make sure they get their sun cream from home bargains and dont get ripped off thats what i say!:rotfl:

Supply teachers are very expensive and so it will take money away from something else that the school could probably do with, like some extra resources. Don't get stressed out if the school closes due to all the teachers taking a couple of weeks off during term time to take advantage of a bargain, and no, we don't earn lots of money and no, we also don't actually get all those weeks off doing nothing!

thriftlady_2

kelloggs36 wrote: »

Supply teachers are very expensive and so it will take money away from something else that the school could probably do with, like some extra resources. Don't get stressed out if the school closes due to all the teachers taking a couple of weeks off during term time to take advantage of a bargain, and no, we don't earn lots of money and no, we also don't actually get all those weeks off doing nothing!

Thanks for that;)

moggitymog

what do you do with all those weeks off?

vixarooni

I thought teachers got quite a good wage really.
I would love to do a job swap with a teacher to understand how hard their job is, i know every job is always harder than what it appears to be but is teaching really as hardcore as what every teacher makes it out to be? I would love to know what kind of daily hours are put in each week? how many days off you really get? what perks do you get? how long do you get for lunch? what is the worst part of the job? Its always had me curious!

Spendless

thriftlady wrote: »

What would you say if your child's teacher tried to take advantage of the cheap term-time holidays with their families?

Have a great time.

kelloggs36

I shall tell you my normal week. Start at 8.15am and prepare for morning lessons - teach until 12.30pm when it is lunchtime for the children, but some days I don't have time for lunch at all, others I grab about 10 - 15 mins to stuff down something and then get back and make sure that everything is ready for the afternoon, or grab some extra marking time. Start teaching again at 1.20pm until 3.15pm when children go home. I then stay until 6pm when I get kicked out by the caretaker. I go home and then work for another 2 or so hours at home either planning, assessing or getting resources ready for lessons or attending meetings. I also work every Sunday for at least 4 hours. Even PPA time isn't enough! This week I have dared to have 3 days where I haven't worked, BUT I have to plan for next term - my medium term plans for maths, literacy, ICT, science, Art, music, French, History PE etc all have to be in by the beginning of next term plus I have to submit the completed plans for last term, ie what I actually taught compared to what I had initially planned to teach. I also have to get applications ready for jobs as my contract ends at the end of July!

So, it isn't possible to say how many days off I get really. I worked out that my hourly rate of pay for the hours I ACTUALLY work (I only earn just over 20k per year) and I nearly cried! It worked out to be just over the minimum wage. So no, I don't get a decent wage for the work I do. I do it because I love it and whilst I know that my wage will increase, I still have to pay my student loan plus I pay over £100 into a pension which is a big chunk, but hopefully will be worth it in the end. I actually took a 5k per year pay cut to become a teacher and got myself a 13k debt in the process! Mad I think!

kelloggs36

moggitymog wrote: »

what do you do with all those weeks off?

plan, assess and mark and get stuff ready for the next term.

kelloggs36

Spendless wrote: »

Have a great time.

Even if your child's school closed because of the lack of teachers? I doubt it.:rolleyes:

bestpud

across wrote: »

thanks for that!as long as we dont have a bad attendance record then there nothing wrong with a family holiday in term time!these goodies goodies with too much money to waste are trying to rub my nose in it and i'm not having it i dont get ripped off i am sensible with my money and if that means i cannot afford to waste good money to buy holidays in school holidays then i'm not losing sleep over it!!!:jin fact i'd like to rub their nose in it now i get cheap holidays and the same as they get a week later/before for half the price!!!!so there! whos the fool now then???:p

I have, and will again no doubt, taken my children out of school for family holidays, and I have even done so knowing it will be recorded as 'unauthorised but applied for absence'.

I don't worry too much about it either, although I do think carefully about when to have holidays. My children otherwise have 100% attendance, or very near to it.

However, I do not see this as a parental right and I find it odd that you do.

It's not about being a goodie goodie as clearly I am not, and it's not about making a fuss over nothing either, as we do not have an automatic right to take our children out of school.

I also know some parents choose not to holiday rather than take their children out of school so it is not just about money! And I would hardly call such a person a 'goodie goodie'!!

Since when was valuing education a reason to mock someone?

vixarooni

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I shall tell you my normal week. Start at 8.15am and prepare for morning lessons - teach until 12.30pm when it is lunchtime for the children, but some days I don't have time for lunch at all, others I grab about 10 - 15 mins to stuff down something and then get back and make sure that everything is ready for the afternoon, or grab some extra marking time. Start teaching again at 1.20pm until 3.15pm when children go home. I then stay until 6pm when I get kicked out by the caretaker. I go home and then work for another 2 or so hours at home either planning, assessing or getting resources ready for lessons or attending meetings. I also work every Sunday for at least 4 hours. Even PPA time isn't enough! This week I have dared to have 3 days where I haven't worked, BUT I have to plan for next term - my medium term plans for maths, literacy, ICT, science, Art, music, French, History PE etc all have to be in by the beginning of next term plus I have to submit the completed plans for last term, ie what I actually taught compared to what I had initially planned to teach. I also have to get applications ready for jobs as my contract ends at the end of July!

So, it isn't possible to say how many days off I get really. I worked out that my hourly rate of pay for the hours I ACTUALLY work (I only earn just over 20k per year) and I nearly cried! It worked out to be just over the minimum wage. So no, I don't get a decent wage for the work I do. I do it because I love it and whilst I know that my wage will increase, I still have to pay my student loan plus I pay over £100 into a pension which is a big chunk, but hopefully will be worth it in the end. I actually took a 5k per year pay cut to become a teacher and got myself a 13k debt in the process! Mad I think!

so you basically work a 60 hour week for just over 20 grand? and 6 hours of your day are spent planning classes and other things generally. I suppose if thats the case you have a right to moan My boyfriend is in the police and yesterday he had to work a 15 and a half hour day, basically due to having to get paper work done before he went home. Madness all this paper work!

thanks for the insight!