I just can't get a job!

tyroneshoelaces

Tarry I agree but who is to say that i will get night work anyway? As i said, I am in a better position than others in the fact that I have no financial commitments so i can choose to be more picky, on another note I may have managed to get some shop work once someone has left, but that is not guaranteed. So fingers crossed.

As for people saying I am not entitled to JSA, and "why should you have it" I have to have it for several reasons.
As we know employers want to know what you have done and are doing in between jobs, by stating that you are on JSA shows that I am actively looking for work. It will allow me to keep my tax up to date and will mean i get a p45 that is up to date. Again, I will get my NI as well, employers will prefer this rather than have a gap in between jobs which you cannot account for.

So, does the fact that you are on JSA mean that you are thrown onto the scrapheap because according to some muppets on here, being on JSA does not swing in your favour and means that employers will over look you......I highly doubt it.

squirrelchops

I don't see working until 1opm to be classed as 'unsociable' hours anymore in this day and age. Working until midnight plus yes but 10pm still allows time to go out or have a meal if you so wanted after work. Working until 10 doesn't mess up your body clock or th like either. I used to do split shifts and until midnight and I loved the fact i could have the morning to do as I pleased and a couple of hours in the afternoon.

My OH workd 7pm-6am.....now that IS unsocialable hours. His body clock is totally screwed even on days off but at the moment needs must. Having been made redundant last year he is now in a secure job but unfortunaltely to get into the company he had to accept a night shift position for now.

wes_cov

Something else that i was advised when i was leaving the RAF is that if you have 2/3 of the skill set a job advert is looking for apply because you may well fill things that they haven't thought about.

Either way keep plugging on and apply for as many as you can get your CV professionally checked twice is better as it is all about opinions and then get your CV out and about and in as many peoples faces as possible

Good luck

Duncan_H

Firstly, you are not alone. Secondly, the most important advice I can give you is get feedback, honest feedback. You can speculate all day long as to why you're not getting employed but unless you badger interviewers more feedback (and tell them not to spare you feelings) you will not get anywhere. Then of course you have to LISTEN to the feedback and better yourself. If you think its because people don't care about you, just look at the responce to your post. Keep your faith.

DaisyFlower

Perhaps your inflexibility is coming across to future employers and is putting them off. Perhaps you are applying for jobs that you dont meet the criteria for, dont have enough experience etc.

In an ideal word we would all like to have the perfect job, with perfect hours and it not interfere with our social/family life but thats not how life always works.

"As we know employers want to know what you have done and are doing in between jobs, by stating that you are on JSA shows that I am actively looking for work. It will allow me to keep my tax up to date and will mean i get a p45 that is up to date. Again, I will get my NI as well, employers will prefer this rather than have a gap in between jobs which you cannot account for." Most employers like to see a continual employment history/studying etc, claiming JSA for a continued period is not what most would prefer.

Jobs are not as readily available anymore but there are jobs for those that are willing to work and are not choosy in their criteria.

Widelats

I can't get work either, i have sent more than 200 applications off and have never once recieved a reply let alone a interview.

pbfhpunk

Not all bar work is in the evening, most are open during the day and if you think about it if you got a job in a bar during the day at lunch hour you'd have all the office staff coming in get to know them and find out about vacancies.

When I was younger I had lots of friends that worked in pubs and they all got jobs they wanted from meeeting a variety of people and getting to hear about other work and oppourtunities.

I also did a CV for a friend that had only ever worked in a pub but we spun her job to include she was used to handling money and quick mathematics, she was used to dealing with all sorts of people, she was assertive and able to keep calm in stressful situations, she gave her CV to one of the regualrs and got a job at the local council and after applying for other jobs within local councils now has an awesome job in Brighton a great little flat and because she's living down there she's now doing a uni course on Zoology and
is off to Africa to work for a charity that looks after orphaned Orangutans. If she hadn't worked in the pub and met people and spruced up her CV taking skills from every little job she'd done she wouldn't have had all this happen.

Please don't rant at me, just that while you say it's not your ambition to work in that environment then it could be a stepping stone to your ambition.

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HelenYorkshire

HTCWinMob wrote: »

Don't mean to be rude to anyone but get off your backside and take the first job that comes along. .

Not being pernickity but you can only *take* a job if you are offered it.
And yes that may mean there is a problem with application techniques etc.

Also some folk say to apply for a job even if you don't match the full specification (because you can offer other skills) - but other advice says that you're wasting your time and theirs.

Any thoughts on that dilemma? Is it more a sliding scale - as in missing a few points is worth a shot? (My personal opinion at the minute). I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinions and reasonings there. :beer:

Also, if someone is entitled to claim benefit then they're entitled. Take it out on the Government, not on the claimant. Or would you rather see people starve and beg and steal...? The loss of purpose and confidence is gut wrenching enough without being treated like something that someone has stepped in.

If it's relevant, yes I am currently claiming JSA, I'm applying for jobs nationwide despite the fact that I can't afford to move house (when I get a job, I will have no income for that first month so who knows how I'll cover rental deposit, removal costs, upfront bills, travel, so on and so forth). Ditto with temporary jobs - sign off for one weeks work, only to starve for the next 4 weeks as I re-submit paperwork? If "The System" was more efficient I would grab every hour I could get. But the simple fact of life is I have no fallback, no cushioning, not even a patch of land to grow my own food for that money-less month.

Oh - and you'd be surprised how enthusiasm and ambition can be a barrier. If you have applied for any level of job as I have done, they take one look at CV and "best foot forward" interview suit and smile....and decide that you will get bored and move on too quickly. This is from the horse's mouth. So that explains rejections by McDs, KFC, Blockbuster, all major supermarkets, most major department stores...... you get the idea.

Having said all that there is something the OP can do to help. Find some voluntary work. As long as it declared correctly there shouldn't be / hasn't been a problem with JSA. It plugs the hole in your CV, it maintains or improves skills, and demonstrates that you are NOT just sat on your behind. It also gives you something to get up for on a morning. It may even open up opportunities for you in terms of getting your face known, or experiencing careers that you hadn't considered.

Hope this helps a little.

chuckley

tyroneshoelaces wrote: »

my logic is screwed? and that is coming from someone who cannot even write properly!

Really, I do have a life and I have no intentions working in a bar, thats the only job I will not do. So is that such a bad thing?

then dont come on MSE complaining u cant get a job.

if bar work is all u wont do, head to a fastfood restaurant... they r doin well in the credit crunch and are opening new brances. again fast quick money and fast movement up levels.

Yes i have been doing something constructive and this is the first time I have been out of work, i have worked in a shop, office, factory and have unfortunately just become unemployed from january as i was self employed for three years. I have several computer qualifications including a degree in Computing. So to some degree I would say I have something to offer. But no job is guaranteed so as i stated, life owes me nothing.

if you have funds to live off from your self employment, then u have no problems, HOWEVER to come here sayin u cant get a job is an ouright flat out LIE!

you say u have been doin contructive things, like what?! i dont mean the job seeking I mean between out of work up to now... thats the 1st thing they will ask as its 'open time'. if its just job seeking, they aint gonna like that much!

So I would say I have been doing something constructive, and who said an office boss is going to give me what I demand? What am i demanding exactly? All I want is to work days,Is that so different? so I am hardly going to apply for a job for night work, then when i get to the interview state that I only want to work days, what a ludicrous thing to say, you really are not doing yourself any favours here pal.

everyone wants to work days, not every1 gets OFFERED days. some just need the money regardless, if u dont, then fair do's u can wait.

Have you been down to the job centre recently? Its absolutely packed with people who have been made redundant and have lost their jobs. Do you think they are there through choice? I certainly am not, and all of those people could be out of work for months or even years. Do you think they want that?

nope not been to job centre since 2003. some are there genuinely, some aint. some just like to claim and some genuinely seek work. some ARE there through choice, others are there for advice.

So Silly comments like this:


really sums up what kind of a person you are. Not much thought has gone into your reply. Are you 12?

Next time spend a little longer than a day before you reply because you might actually come up with something interesting and of some help.

I wasnt the one that offered the example of bar work. my beef was u stating u cant find work and reading into what u were saying about refusing nights/bars,friend/party time e.t.c then u clearly dont need the money. if u did ud take whatever hours/jobs u could to fund your 'life'.

maybe thats just me.

chuckley

Widelats wrote: »

I can't get work either, i have sent more than 200 applications off and have never once recieved a reply let alone a interview.

if it was via an agency online, i think its more agencies just adding to books more than anything.