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  • minnie123
    minnie123 Posts: 2,133 Forumite
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    retireby50 wrote: »
    To avoid the potential of upsetting people it's always a good idea to carefully read your post first...and then again...and then again. Some people could get upset by your last comment for example.

    I don't have time for that - If I upset people when I don't mean to then I suppose they will get over it - like I do when people upset me.

    You can't please everyone all the time. and everyones sense of humour is different.

    You shouldn't have to change to please other people.

    This site reflects real life - we are not all robots.

    My comment of "some people are big fat meanies" was a lighthearted comment meant in jest. It's a bit different from someone replying to someone who is struggling to get out of debt by saying - well it's your fault you shouldn't have spent so much stupid - for example.
  • FatAndy
    FatAndy Posts: 7,541 Forumite
    minnie123 wrote: »
    My comment of "some people are big fat meanies" was a lighthearted comment meant in jest. It's a bit different from someone replying to someone who is struggling to get out of debt by saying - well it's your fault you shouldn't have spent so much stupid - for example.

    I'm a big fat meanie and wasn't in any way offended by minnie's quotes.
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  • retireby50
    retireby50 Posts: 256 Forumite
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    minnie123 wrote: »
    I don't have time for that - If I upset people when I don't mean to then I suppose they will get over it - like I do when people upset me.

    You can't please everyone all the time. and everyones sense of humour is different.

    You shouldn't have to change to please other people.

    This site reflects real life - we are not all robots.

    My comment of "some people are big fat meanies" was a lighthearted comment meant in jest. It's a bit different from someone replying to someone who is struggling to get out of debt by saying - well it's your fault you shouldn't have spent so much stupid - for example.

    Ok, but one of the points in your original message was people misinterpreting what you say and a good way to avoid that is not to write things that can easily be misinterpreted.

    "I don't have time for that", OK then you take the consequences.

    "You can't please everyone all the time", you can try and there is a middle ground between pleasing and upsetting.

    "You shouldn't have to change to please other people", I imagine some people (not you) might use that as an excuse for some extreme behaviour and again same point about middle ground as above.
  • kitekat
    kitekat Posts: 1,283 Forumite
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    I totally agree that something needs to be one about people on this site who bully and are nasty to others,ive noticed it particularly in posters who have high thread counts,and im not saying all are like this,but these posters seem to think that because they have so many thousands of thanks it gives them carte blanche to go treating others any way they like and i think if this is not stamped out here then decent posters will leave.I know for myself i will not be posting as much on this site because of this.There is a definate pack mentality among this group of bullys,it starts with one then before you know it a dozen or more come along to put the boot in.What about a black mark next to their thanks counts each time they are nasty or are reported for being so, this would then show others on MSE who to avoid and would shame the bullies.
  • stugib
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    FatAndy wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that Parliament have created a law that meant you could take ownership of something because someone made a genuine mistake - instead I'd argue that they've neglected to create a law to prevent this happening (subtle difference).
    I don't think they have - the law (ignore the BERR website) is pretty clear - there effectively has to be intent and demand for payment. In a mistake neither of these are true - the company would always give you the option, and prefer you to return it, and by definition haven't done it deliberately.
    It probably needs repealing and replacing with legislation more suited to the age of online retailing.
    Don't see why, a mistake's a mistake, whether it was sent from an online or high-street retailer.
    I not sure though about expecting the man in the street to understand Parliament's intentions
    I'd call it common sense (in addition to the legal principles pointed out by Tozer/dmg24)! Besides, would only become an issue when you were in that situation and deciding whether you want to push it or get into a legal fight.
  • minnie123
    minnie123 Posts: 2,133 Forumite
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    retireby50 wrote: »
    Ok, but one of the points in your original message was people misinterpreting what you say and a good way to avoid that is not to write things that can easily be misinterpreted.

    "I don't have time for that", OK then you take the consequences.

    "You can't please everyone all the time", you can try and there is a middle ground between pleasing and upsetting.

    "You shouldn't have to change to please other people", I imagine some people (not you) might use that as an excuse for some extreme behaviour and again same point about middle ground as above.

    Take the consequences?? I am waiting for the big fat meanie police to turn up and take me away!!

    There is a difference between other people not getting you and bullying. The other people not getting you thing is always going to happen and maybe that is more the readers fault than the poster.

    Bullying is a different kettle of fish altogether - there is no excuse for that.

    I think most people can see a distinct difference between the two.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    Am going to be pedantic here ...
    kitekat wrote: »
    ive noticed it particularly in posters who have high thread counts,and im not saying all are like this,but these posters seem to think that because they have so many thousands of thanks

    Do you actually mean high thread counts, or high post counts ... or high thanks? They are three very different things.
    kitekat wrote: »
    I know for myself i will not be posting as much on this site because of this.

    Why do people say this when it is blatantly not true? :confused:
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  • Takoda
    Takoda Posts: 1,846 Forumite
    Just my 2p but if I don't like a comment someone has posted I tend to check their previous posts.

    The nasty folk tend to be nasty to everyone so once you know what they're like you can just bung them on ignore and forget about them.

    In odd cases I will report posts which I know some people don't like but hey its a free country!

    If someone has posted an unkind comment to a 'new' poster I tend to add a short post telling them that the person is generally unpleasant to everyone and not to take it to heart.

    Most of the 'regulars' on here can give as good as they get! ;)
  • kitekat
    kitekat Posts: 1,283 Forumite
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    Am going to be pedantic here ...



    Do you actually mean high thread counts, or high post counts ... or high thanks? They are three very different things.



    Why do people say this when it is blatantly not true? :confused:

    I mean high thanks counts.Answer to your 2nd question,in my case it will be true.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    kitekat wrote: »
    I mean high thanks counts.Answer to your 2nd question,in my case it will be true.

    Surely a high thanks count would point to a person being helpful/ friendly most of the time? Perhaps you have just noted these people on bad days - we all have them!

    It should also be noted that, what some people find to be 'nasty' or 'bullying', others will find to be perfectly normal. Admittedly there are some posters that set out to be nasty, but in the majority it is just a difference in opinion.
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