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Misery of the BTLers and property developers...

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Kenny4315 wrote: »
    There is plenty of guff abot BTLers all being in the Sh*te which just isn't true, I'm happy for the market to correct by around 35% from peak, as I'm seeking to purchase 4 properties with funds released in sept 2007 from the sale of my previous residence. Probably looking at around a total spend of about £600k on the four, with a deposit of between 30 and 40%, held.

    Mr Clown maybe a clown but there were plenty of BTLers and developers who were aware of this correction a good time before it occurred, I can happily say that I was one of them.

    Could you explain further how this is good?

    It's just I have a car, which I bought for £9500 cash, and it's now worth around £6000 cash.

    I also have some money I could use to buy another car.

    So I too, would like to say that it's good for me that my car has depriciated 30% as it means I have less money overall. It would somewhat make me happier if I thought that because my asset was now worth a lot less, I'm actually better off?
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Yes it is :beer:

    Prove it :j
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    Prove it :j

    So you honesty think there is no difference from investing in property to investing in shares? I know where I would rather have my money.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Dan: wrote: »
    So you honesty think there is no difference from investing in property to investing in shares? I know where I would rather have my money.

    In the bank?

    1% must sound a pretty good yield?
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    So you honesty think there is no difference from investing in property to investing in shares? I know where I would rather have my money.
    The only difference mate is it's probably easier to get shot of shares:beer:
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    The only difference mate is it's probably easier to get shot of shares:beer:
    One difference is the leverage. Buy shares with cash - win or lose some money. Buy house with borrowed money - win or lose much larger sums. It's possible to buy shares and lose everything. It's possible to buy property using leverage and end up with less than nothing.
  • mp2
    mp2 Posts: 80 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    So you honesty think there is no difference from investing in property to investing in shares? I know where I would rather have my money.

    todays price is the correct price for any asset.
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    mewbie wrote: »
    . It's possible to buy property using leverage and end up with less than nothing.

    It certainly is if your Pickles :beer:
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    FTSE 100 19/03/1999 Closed at 6163
    FTSE 100 on Friday Closed at 3842
    So you would be approx 38% down if you invested 10 years ago.

    Average Property prices in 1999 were approx £90,000
    Average Property prices today approx £160,000
    So you would be approx 80% up if you invested 10 years ago.

    I know where I would want my money. Property wins, always.
  • FungusFighter
    FungusFighter Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    FTSE 100 19/03/1999 Closed at 6163
    FTSE 100 on Friday Closed at 3842
    So you would be approx 38% down if you invested 10 years ago.

    Average Property prices in 1999 were approx £90,000
    Average Property prices today approx £160,000
    So you would be approx 80% up if you invested 10 years ago.

    I know where I would want my money. Property wins, always.

    You wouldn't say that if you were sat on a mortgage of half a million for some sh1thole the ea convinced you was worth £600k done up at the peak and now you couldn't sell for half that:A

    Ask Onion Boy if he ever shows his face on this therad again:rotfl::rotfl:

    I'd like to see a projection for what you think property will be worth in 2 years while we're at it mate, might be good for a larf:T
    You can't win an argument with a stupid person.

    I'm dyslexic ie I can't be @rsed to check for typos
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