Marks and Spencers and ID

xxlaurissaxx

You can get a pass card for £18 (I think). I know its not great but working in retail myself, we are constantly getting "spot checks" for ID-ing by the company and the police and if we were to get caught its money that comes out of our own pocket to pay the £80 fine, we get charged and lose our jobs.

We just have to cover our backs. Its now 25 and under so we id alot but the regulars we get used to and dont have to id them all the time.

We have to put it through the till and fill in a book everytime it is done, even if they have ID.

It can get anoying though when you are out shopping. Thats why I am glad I always have my driving licence on me. I feel for people who dont though.

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xxlaurissaxx

princesslaura wrote: »

Tesco who claimed that there was a law which stated that if my fiance bought the wine and gave it to me the cashier could be prosecuted - there is no such law!

Its company policy too where I work. We cannot give it to someone if we believe it is for someone else. I had the cans of beer they were wanting thrown at me because I refused to serve them as I know they were for his son. My manager said I did the right thing as I could have been sacked for this.

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mishkanorman

[QUOTE=Pinzy;20038277

Even if you're 30, and haven't got ID, so hand it to your obviously aged friend to buy it, it's the same principle as buying it for kids, and it has the same consequences.



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Ive snipped your quote as only this piece bothered me, How does it have the same consequences ? Its not an offence to provide alcohol to someone without ID, its only an offence if they are underage

Im a few months off 30, i still get ID'd all the time. My 'prove it' ID expired when i turned 25 and the picture is me when i was 18 so ive changed a fair bit. I refuse to purchase a provisional driving licence purely so i can buy the odd bottle of wine in tescos :rolleyes:

I work in a rural pub and every shift we deal with under-age girlies and their face full of slap, sometimes its hard to tell. I always have a chat with them as I ID them but we are strictly no id no alcohol. But a woman with 2 kids buying wine with a months shop should be afforded with a little more respect :cool:

I would like a national id card, i can see the reasons against but at every point in our lives we are asked to prove who we are, so why not a nationally recognised (govenment run) scheme ?


mishka

upsetonerightnow

My OH get's ID'ed for cigs all the time he's nearly 26!! lol, I've never been ID'ed for anything and I'm only 22!

God I must look old

Pinzy

mishkanorman wrote: »

Ive snipped your quote as only this piece bothered me, How does it have the same consequences ? Its not an offence to provide alcohol to someone without ID, its only an offence if they are underage

mishka

You're right. I know that's not quite how I meant it, but unfortunately I can't remember how I did mean it at the time

Mrs_Ryan

I've been reading this thread with interest.

I used to work on the tills in M&S and I used a bit of common sense. If say a mum was shopping with her child and had a bottle of wine or something I never refused the sale unless it was a young mum who needed ID'ing of course

I think I only ID'd a few people and they were all quite prepared for it - one lad handed over a passport which i was surprised at! I think the policies of ID'ing pensioners etc is stupid though. If someone is blatantly over 18 - like an OAP for example then I see little point in ID'ing them! I get ID'd quite a lot and Im flattered by it... I got ID'd buying my dad's Xmas present in Boots 2 weeks after my 27th birthday and I actually laughed when she asked me - I couldnt believe it.

My mate doesnt actually have any ID at all - only her birth and marriage certificates. We're having a wrangle with a club we're going to next month at the moment due to the fact that 1) they have said 'ID may be requested and must be shown' 2) they then changed their tune and said 'you wont get in without ID' 3) they have said that only a UK Passport or Driving licence is acceptable - one of the party is coming from Germany and therefore has a German passport. 4) I've just changed my name and my ID is my old name.. but the name on the guestlist has to match the name on the ID... so I'm having to take my driving licence (which is due to expire in November anyway) and my deed poll certificate with me!! This is all a monumental pain in the bum. My mate is 31 - and looks 31. Common sense anyone :rolleyes:

datostar

Well, I'm 62 and when I purchased my bottle of Laphroaig Cask Strength in Asda this morning I wasn't I.D'd . I was quite offended and told the cashier so...

phlogeston

princesslaura wrote: »

My fiance and I (both 25) were shopping in Tesco the other week. We bought a weekly shop which included a bottle of wine. The cashier asked for ID and as my partner was paying he showed his. However, she refused to serve us as I didn't have any ID to prove I was over 18. We even sent an email to Tesco who claimed that there was a law which stated that if my fiance bought the wine and gave it to me the cashier could be prosecuted - there is no such law!

Technically, a shop is not is obliged to ask anyone for ID. However, most implement a Check It policy of either 21 or 25. Any seller that asks for ID from someone who is clearly over 18 is just being anal.

Licensing Act 2003 (c. 17)
Part 7 Offences

146 Sale of alcohol to children
(1) A person commits an offence if he sells alcohol to an individual aged under 18.
....
(4) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section by reason of his own conduct it is a defence that—
(a) he believed that the individual was aged 18 or over, and
(b) either—
(i) he had taken all reasonable steps to establish the individual’s age, or
(ii) nobody could reasonably have suspected from the individual’s appearance that he was aged under 18.

149 Purchase of alcohol by or on behalf of children
(3) A person commits an offence if—
(a) he buys or attempts to buy alcohol on behalf of an individual aged under 18
....

151 Delivering alcohol to children
(2) A person to whom subsection (3) applies commits an offence if he knowingly allows anybody else to deliver to an individual aged under 18 alcohol sold on relevant premises.
(3) This subsection applies to a person who works on the premises in a capacity, whether paid or unpaid, which authorises him to prevent the delivery of the alcohol.

mishkanorman

thats really interesting info,. can i ask what your source was ?

mishka

juno

datostar wrote: »

Well, I'm 62 and when I purchased my bottle of Laphroaig Cask Strength in Asda this morning I wasn't I.D'd . I was quite offended and told the cashier so...

I've had that few times, and it isn't funny