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  • moonrakerz
    moonrakerz Posts: 8,650 Forumite
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    Gers wrote: »
    Here's a link to the official information

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Yourchildshealthandsafety/WorriedAbout/DG_10026210

    I deliver the scUK Safeguarding and Protecting Children seminar and use this to illustrate one of the scenarios.

    That is exactly what I said !
  • sinstar
    sinstar Posts: 309 Forumite
    they only have to take id if your paying cash .. if your paying on debit card then that all the id they need as they can trace it back so you got a jobsworth

    They have to take ID even if you are paying by debit card. So what if they can trace back how old the owner of a debit card is? Let's say a 16 year old comes in with their mum's debit card and because they have a debit card the cashier assumes they are 18. Now that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it.
  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
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    im talking about id for foreign currency
    sinstar

    as for alchol soon youll have to look 25 to be served what does a 25 year old look like


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  • KimYeovil wrote: »
    Why would a student card be accepted? 25 to 40% of holders could be underage.

    What if it's a university one? I'd say about 0% of them are under 18 (even though they might look like they're 12 ;) ).
    "One thing that is different, and has changed here, is the self-absorption, not just greed. Everybody is in a hurry now and there is a 'the rules don't apply to me' sort of thing." - Bill Bryson
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    Had the same problem in Tesco one day on New Years eve, went through checkout fine, with my 18 year old daughter and 12 year old son. Everything was fine, my darling children knowing that i have problems with my hands, automatically lifted the shopping to carry it for me, my 12 yr old had some booze in a bag with other groceries, my 18 yr old lifted the half box of beer (6 or 8 cans or something).

    They objected to my daughter carrying the beer out to the car, when I explained to them, I had a hand problem, they just didn't care, they were quite happy for my boy to carry the bag, but not my girl to carry the beer, maybe because the booze wasn't visable in the bag??? I have no idea. So I said to the manager, we have 2 ways of doing this, due to my disability, I can't carry the beer, which I have already paid for, my daughter can carry it to the car, she has no ID with her, other than her pass for work, but you have my word as a mother that she is 18, OR you can get a member of your staff to assist me to the car with it? Well he went on and on and on, bla bla bla, I ended up telling my daughter, ok take the beer, they can't stop you, it's my beer, I have already paid for it. He kept going on about consequences if the police seen her taking it from the shop. If the police see her taking it from the shop, I would have taken them home with me to show her ID.

    Now I understand that these laws are here for a reason. IF my daughter had been trying to buy booze then fair enough, but to punish her for helping her poor old mum, even after I explained to them was a bit off and jobsworth IMO and they knew I had a bottle of spirits in the other bag, why not ask about the lad too, why was it just my girl carrying the beer that was questioned.
    4 Stones and 0 pounds or 25.4kg lighter :j
  • INT1
    INT1 Posts: 1,257 Forumite
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    Sounds like some jobs worth, go to a diff m&s as it is a cracking deal :cool:
  • mooomin
    mooomin Posts: 13,703 Forumite
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    What if it's a university one? I'd say about 0% of them are under 18 (even though they might look like they're 12 ;) ).
    Up here in Sunny Scotland (And it is sunny today :D ) you can start uni when you sit your highers. I stayed on till sixth year in school but had the qualifications to be accepted to uni when I was 16 and started at uni when I was 17.

    Also, t'other half is a mature student and has an NUS card which is issued by the college, not in his writing. They have printed it (It's a laminated one) with his name, DoB etc. That's why I thought you could use it!
  • binkyboo_2
    binkyboo_2 Posts: 675 Forumite
    not alcohol related but recently i went out with my parents who are in their sixties and my daughter who is 18 months, i am 24. we went to the self service till in wilkinsons to buy some bits and bobs including some rather blunt looking crimping effect craft scissors. i was asked for id by an assistant but they wouldn't believe i was over the age of 16. A couple nearby also rang alarm bells by trying to buy knitting needles but they weren't even asked for id and i didn't think they looked any older than me :confused:
    after we left i decided i really needed the scissors so my dad went back in to get them and he was also refused because he could have been buying them for me. i think this was made more ridiculous by the fact that the scissors were in the kids arts and craft section of the shop but a 24 and a 64 year old were not allowed to buy them!
  • brightonman123
    brightonman123 Posts: 8,535 Forumite
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    it's M&S loss. what i dont understand is the 'under 21?' or under 25?' type signs, ID will be asked to check you you over 18.. surely they should only be asking if you look under 18 (beingthe current limit) ?

    All rather subjective, imo.. check everyone, or jus not sell it at all.
    Long time away from MSE, been dealing real life stuff..
    Sometimes seen lurking on the compers forum :-)
  • lulaloo
    lulaloo Posts: 191 Forumite
    An update - I went back to M & S this morning (without my passport - couldn't find it in the rush for work) and there was NO LAMB!! Argh, so anyway I settled for beef.

    Grabbed my veg, my apple pie and my vino and scuttled to the self service checkouts. The wine beeped as I put it through and and I turned (as grown-up-ly as I could) to look at the woman who was in charge of the self service tills...

    She smiled and pressed the button to let me buy my wine WOO.

    On second thoughts, maybe i'm aging so rapidly that I look noticably older today than I did yesterday ... oh dear.


    My Student ID does have my date of birth on (all printed and posh and everything) but I knew the cashier wouldn't take it. Nowhere seems to take it as ID these days. I seem to remember when I was 17, you used to be able to apply for fake student cards on the web for about £20. I don't know if it's that easy to get them now, but I suppose this must be the reason nowhere takes them as proper forms of ID.

    Anyhoo - I've got my wine and saved £10.51 on my deal.

    Lets hope it's a nice bottle...
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