Computer jobs while at Uni!!!! (experienced!)

MercilessKiller

MORPH3US wrote:

Unless you intend to work down in London mate then IMHO you have no chance of even getting near £22k.

I can't speak for your profession exactly but I do know that the 22k£ average is heavily weighted for London. I would imagine that the average for the midlands was more like £20k or maybe even less!

....If you don't know about the profession how can you answer questions on types of wages haha

CCNA = specialised qualification. Maybe 22k would be starting.. but it would go quite a bit up

Anyway... I may go to the US once i'm out of my degree. CCNA's and CCNP's get better over their.. but as they're rare in the UK anyway.. then it may all catch up.

Either way, I need advice on getting a job while at uni. Not after. I haven't got my full CCNA no, meaning I can't use this to my advantage. BUT I do want a job regarding computers (harder than cleaning mouse balls too hopefully...)

I just wonder how the hell to get some work in this area part time

MORPH3US

MercilessKiller wrote:

....If you don't know about the profession how can you answer questions on types of wages haha

If you re-read my post, I DID SAY, that I can't speak for your profession exactly, so instead I said I was referring to "GENERAL GRADUATE SALARIES" :rolleyes:

Anyway good luck getting a job :j

M

greyster

The problem you will face is the typical catch 22 situation where you hear students screaming blue murder on, on job sites such as monster (tech job forum) and others. This is where you have the qualifications, some real good ones and even ones that took a while to achieve. However you have limited experience, you just finished university and have 0-2 years commercial experience. You'll apply for roles which you are more than qualified to do, know how to do and be confident at interview, to only discover they picked someone with more experience.

If you are a bright person (I am guessing you are!), once you have the necessary experience you will be sorted. However to get this experience you will most likely take a job that gives reason to the 22k average graduate salary.

I am not saying everyone falls close to the 22k starting, there are lots of people on sub 15k and just as many on 30k. However the stats are there and qualifications are easier to get than experience in my opinion. Especially when employers (the real nice ones) can send you on training courses while you earning the great experience.

The best thing I would do after university is join a graduate scheme. They acknowledge you have 0-2 years experience (and won't hire anyone with more than 2), pay well and give you what you want, experience.

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back on track to the original thread... can you hack a website together? I made a nice amount of cash as a student making websites. There's always a local business/friend of the family who wants a site putting together.

It beats working at a checkout.

MercilessKiller

greyster wrote:

The problem you will face is the typical catch 22 situation where you hear students screaming blue murder on, on job sites such as monster (tech job forum) and others. This is where you have the qualifications, some real good ones and even ones that took a while to achieve. However you have limited experience, you just finished university and have 0-2 years commercial experience. You'll apply for roles which you are more than qualified to do, know how to do and be confident at interview, to only discover they picked someone with more experience.

If you are a bright person (I am guessing you are!), once you have the necessary experience you will be sorted. However to get this experience you will most likely take a job that gives reason to the 22k average graduate salary.

I am not saying everyone falls close to the 22k starting, there are lots of people on sub 15k and just as many on 30k. However the stats are there and qualifications are easier to get than experience in my opinion. Especially when employers (the real nice ones) can send you on training courses while you earning the great experience.

The best thing I would do after university is join a graduate scheme. They acknowledge you have 0-2 years experience (and won't hire anyone with more than 2), pay well and give you what you want, experience.

Thank you very much for that good advice. I'll definitely take that on board when leaving uni!

I don't mind earning low just to build up the experience for better.. sounds good to me!


Ringo.. i can *make* web pages.. but everyone has their own ideas and I'm only good at implementing my own haha... So i don't think I'd be able to do that. I am thinking of things that next years freshers would pay me for.

How about a taxi service? I drive and stay up late anyway.. and students always need lift from town back to halls etc... how legal is it for a personal taxi service ya think?

MORPH3US

MercilessKiller wrote:

How about a taxi service? I drive and stay up late anyway.. and students always need lift from town back to halls etc... how legal is it for a personal taxi service ya think?

I have no experience here so don't quote me but I would imagine that taxi driving is heavily regulated. It would probably cost you more to put into action than you would make. PLUS when all your mates are out drinking, surely you don't want to be sat at home sober waiting for one of them to call! Not to mention chips, kebab and other stuff (!?) in your car!!!

M

MercilessKiller

MORPH3US wrote:

I have no experience here so don't quote me but I would imagine that taxi driving is heavily regulated. It would probably cost you more to put into action than you would make. PLUS when all your mates are out drinking, surely you don't want to be sat at home sober waiting for one of them to call! Not to mention chips, kebab and other stuff (!?) in your car!!!

M

I have no idea on the legal implications.. im surprised if i'd have to pay for licenses and stuff, just to give like uni people a lift back

As for me.. i'm not the most social person in the world :x me and mates have a good laugh.. but going out getting drunk.. doesnt happen a lot

I suppose for the last thing I could stick a throw over the back seats ^-^

If it took off i'd imagine making quite a bit of money :x

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I do remember some enterprising students in my area organised a '24 hour booze delivery service'... along the same lines as the taxi service.. you'd need a license to do it legally though (there were some also very illegal variations of thise service around). The booze service would work perfectly on a campus.

You really can't be a taxi driver without a license though. Or sell booze. You also can't download songs, use a music editor to fade in the chorus and reduce the filesize then bluetooth them to freshers to use as ringtones for 1 pound a time. That would be naughty.

greyster

how about 'chinese gold farming' in online MMRPGs. When you build up your 'virtual' gold collection and ebay it to needy players.

World of Warcraft is currently the most popular for this.

Savvy_Sue

I believe you WOULD have to tell your insurers if you were being paid to drive people anywhere - hire or reward insurance tends to be a bit more expensive, and you really don't want to be without it! Plus I can't see you'd be very popular with the licensed taxi drivers, who do pay a lot for their licences (to the local council). You might find them on the downright unfriendly side once they realised what you were up to ...