Low-carb diets support thread

murphydog999

Paleo, really in it's essence is all about eating natural products and healthy eating. I follow the principles, but include diary - there are 2 thoughts on diary - Mark Sissons himself does have some - and depending any intolerances you may have, or other issues perhaps - it is your choice to be in either the have or have nots.

The majority of carbs will come from veg. It opens up a whole new world of recipes and thoughts and how you put meals together, there are plenty of tried and tested recipes on page 1 if you haven't seen it yet.

SHEILA54

http://thepaleodiet.com/the-paleo-diet-premise/

http://thepaleodiet.com/what-to-eat-on-the-paleo-diet/

daska

Lilith1980 wrote: »

Thanks very much for this murphydog

In terms of 'no carbs' - I thought that's what the paleo diet was? Or is it cutting the heavy carbs and continuing to have other carbs in the form of greens?

Do you follow a particular diet?

It's quite difficult to eat no-carb. You'd be limited to meat and fat, no dairy, eggs, veg etc. But it can, and has, been done including under hospital supervision.

Paleo is a lower carb diet because it automatically reduces the carbs you ingest because grains and sugar are off limits. Even if you go a bundle on fruit but even there's a limit to how much you can physically eat, especially if you stick to what's in season.

Probably best to understand the principles before you dive in.

http://thepaleodiet.com/

Though personally this is more me http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-primal-blueprint/#axzz2IpWbZxUS

murphydog - I seem to remember reading that the reasoning behind the warning about protein was due an assumption that because protein can be a problem for people with a kidney problem it must therefore be a cause of said kidney problems but that the evidence says otherwise - bit like the cholesterol myth. Am I getting myself in a muddle?

cleggy - you've rather missed the point on several things haven't you? Firstly it's a support thread, not a discussion; secondly there isn't anyone here who doesn't eat carbs.

Lilith1980

Thanks for your information peeps

I am dairy intolerant - the more I eat of dairy the more bloated/ill I feel, so as a consequence I rarely eat cheese (but have some now and then) and have soya milk with cereal rather than normal milk as milk bloats me every time I have it.

Although looks like I might have to cut out cereals for something else.

I will have a look at all the links you have posted guys, thanks

Mojisola

murphydog999 wrote: »

Paleo, really in it's essence is all about eating natural products and healthy eating. I follow the principles, but include diary - there are 2 thoughts on diary - Mark Sissons himself does have some - and depending any intolerances you may have, or other issues perhaps - it is your choice to be in either the have or have nots.

There is evidence now that our ancestors were making cheese about 7,500 thousand years ago -
http://ancientfoods.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/art-of-cheese-making-is-7500-years-old/
https://www.princeton.edu/engineering/news/archive/?id=9252

By the time a culture has got round to making specific pottery items for the manufacture of a food stuff, it must have already been an important part of the diet so the preservation of milk probably goes back quite a bit further.

durham_mim

Lilith1980 wrote: »

Thanks for your information peeps

I am dairy intolerant - the more I eat of dairy the more bloated/ill I feel, so as a consequence I rarely eat cheese (but have some now and then) and have soya milk with cereal rather than normal milk as milk bloats me every time I have it.

Although looks like I might have to cut out cereals for something else.

I will have a look at all the links you have posted guys, thanks

I'm lactose intolerant and use Lactofree products, not sure if that would help you. I've been following this way of eating for 6 months now and no longer have cereals. Occasionally I will make flax porridge but otherwise I have a cooked breakfast. Since Christmas I've deviated and been eating sweets containing milk chocolate. As a result I feel terrible this week, no energy, head all fuzzy, joints aching, mouth all sore and blistered. Its just the kick up the backside I need to get back on track.

paula7924

Hello world.
I have realised that 18 (?) months ago my working days got too long and I didn't have time to cook for myself and slid in to a diet of quick and easy, and carbey, food.
I can't even remember what my signature says now lol.
I shall have to man up and stand on the scales tomirrow!

murphydog999

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murphydog - I seem to remember reading that the reasoning behind the warning about protein was due an assumption that because protein can be a problem for people with a kidney problem it must therefore be a cause of said kidney problems but that the evidence says otherwise - bit like the cholesterol myth. Am I getting myself in a muddle?
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No I don't think so, but I'm in one now! Not sure about the 'cause,' of the condition, but we are talking excessive amounts and for long periods, I don't think any of us are that daft!

Lilith1980

durham_mim wrote: »

I'm lactose intolerant and use Lactofree products, not sure if that would help you. I've been following this way of eating for 6 months now and no longer have cereals. Occasionally I will make flax porridge but otherwise I have a cooked breakfast. Since Christmas I've deviated and been eating sweets containing milk chocolate. As a result I feel terrible this week, no energy, head all fuzzy, joints aching, mouth all sore and blistered. Its just the kick up the backside I need to get back on track.

Thanks for this, I have seen the lactofree cheese and milk so will have a look. I wouldn't want to cut diary really as I would be worried about lack of calcium.

What sort of things do you have in your cooked breakfast? I'm guessing you have to try and include protein, fat, and veg so would something like scrambled eggs, bacon and mushrooms do the job?

Someone also recommended Omega 3 6 9 oil capsules - does anyone know what the benefits of these are on the body? I know it's fish oil and I don't eat enough fish so maybe these will make up for it. They seem a bit expensive though (in Holland & Barrett anyway)

NigeWick

Lilith1980 wrote: »

However, I have been told by someone I know who is a personal trainer that cardio is no good for fat loss and that weights are?

If you do a lot of work, you become hungry and eat more which is not slimming. If you put on lean muscle, it takes more calories to keep the muscle going than fat, so although weight loss may not be as fast, your body will be using more calories and you'll change shape. Very few people will go all Big Arnie with strength training. We just tend to build lean stronger bodies.

I started last March with HIT rowing on a machine. 20 secs flat out, get breath back and do another twice. That's a whole minute and I did that two or three times a week. Sprinting or cycling will do exactly the same for cardio and of course one doesn't need a lot of kit for running.

In June I read Body by Science and did the Big Five strength exercises once week. That took a whopping ten to fifteen minutes. Later on I realised that I was not working a lot of smaller muscle groups and it wasn't helping with balance etc so I went on to bodyweight exercise as again it can be done without expensive gear.

Press ups (I am still on the side of the bath, not proper ones yet), Dips (done between two chairs with legs out straight but I started with legs bent), Sit Ups or Plank depending how I feel, Pull Ups under the kitchen table with feet on the ground & legs bent and squats using an old rucksack with weight in it. All these can be made more difficult by adjusting the position of the body, adding weight or just using one limb. The book I bought for this was You Are Your Own Gym. Still far too hard for me at present but I'll get there.

I still try and make the exercise as hard as I can readily manage (70-80% of maximum) and go to exhaustion once a week along the lines of Body by Science which says that we need to tire the muscles completely before they react to the stimulus and grow. Plus, the workouts don't take long and I do not get hungry.

After a hard bit of strength training I will have some protein for my body to use. Being retired, I time my efforts to be just before lunch time.Serious athletes would also take on some carbs in the form of vegetables or fruit too. I also walk a few miles five days a week.

So, my regime is walking a bit, sprinting once (normally) or twice a week and strength training once (usually) or perhaps twice a week.