Low-carb diets support thread

kafkathecat

Cleggy, this may be a discussion site but you have come onto a support thread to criticise those who post there. Why? Those of us who follow this way of eating know that it works for us in ways that you refuse to believe, not just weight loss. If you want to criticise aspects of the diet why not start a new thread?

pink_princess

cleggy. wrote: »

This place is like the flat-earthers society of days gone by. Even when the science and experts told them the earth was round they refused to believe it and still thought you'd fall off the edge if you got too close.

Carbs are good, don't be scared of them. Ignore the white bread and processed foods and high sugar cereals and enjoy wholemeal bread and pasta and potatoes and veg and all the other great types of carbs and you will feel great and burn fat efficiently if you keep your overall calories below the number you use up each day.

And long after the flat-earthers were doctors that told people to smoke if stressed :ee
Each to their own Cleggy, you eat what you want and we will eat what we want.

I agree to eat good carbs but disagree with your good list. Brazil, pecan, walnuts and almonds are good.
The likes of pumpkin, flax, sesame and sunflower seeds also.

Mercy

Lots of veg,
Green for preference
with all colours following.

Good meat cooked at home
Good dairy to one's tolerance
Fruits on a berry good day

Happy nutty folk
Make this a lovely way
to be relaxed in the outcome

So we say YAY! To low carbing! :j:beer::T:rotfl::A

Mx

NigeWick

cleggy. wrote: »

This place is like the flat-earthers society of days gone by.

Nope. It's you who appears to be the member of the flat earth society. Scientific evidence shows that grains are good for birds but not humans. Yes most people can survive if they eat wheat etc and most people can take a little radioactivity, doesn't make it good for us though.

Or are you just here for a wind up? :beer:

NigeWick

Mercy wrote: »

Happy nutty folk

Not losing weight as I would like and I think I'm eating too many nuts of an evening. I shall stop my nut supper and see how I get on.

murphydog999

NigeWick wrote: »

Or are you just here for a wind up? :beer:

Yes, these are my thoughts.

Lilith1980

Hi all, been having a read of the thread and would like to join if ok, more in terms of finding out more and 'dipping my toe' in the water at the moment lol.

I go to the gym most days, and try and mix up my workouts. One week I might do predominantly cardio (treadmill/cross-trainer), but this week I am doing 15 minutes cardio with the remaining 45 minutes using weights on my legs and arms, with some ab exercises. I try and mix it up so my body doesn’t get used to one thing and I stop any progress.

However, I have been told by someone I know who is a personal trainer that cardio is no good for fat loss and that weights are?

As for my diet, I think I eat relatively healthy but this same personal trainer recommended the Paleo diet and that cutting carbs will help me lose fat. I am not really keen on cutting carbs out all together, but more reducing them. That said, I am concerned about low energy levels and kidney/liver disease - are these things unfounded in relation to such diets? How much should I cut down on carbs if I don't want to cut them all together?

I should also point out that I had an eating disorder in my 20s and although I haven’t had any problems with this for quite some time, the subject of food and cutting food groups can be quite anxiety-provoking for me so I need to keep myself safe as well. Hopefully some of you can help, as I have looked online and see so many conflicting messages about low-carb/no-carb diets which in itself gets me quite anxious!

I don’t weigh myself – the number on the scale will NEVER be ‘right’ for me, so I go on how I look and how my clothes feel. I don’t think I am overweight, I am 5’2” and a size 10/12, but have some ‘wobbly bits’ lol and would like to tone these up and lose fat, rather than lose weight.

So that’s me, sorry to have waffled and hope to hear from you good people

MMLS

cleggy. wrote: »

This place is like the flat-earthers society of days gone by. Even when the science and experts told them the earth was round they refused to believe it and still thought you'd fall off the edge if you got too close.

It took me a very long time to come around to this way of eating. It wasn't until I read the science behind it that I started to think differently. Until any of us do the same we don't really have an informed opinion

Carbs are good, don't be scared of them. Ignore the white bread and processed foods and high sugar cereals and enjoy wholemeal bread and pasta and potatoes and veg and all the other great types of carbs and you will feel great and burn fat efficiently if you keep your overall calories below the number you use up each day.

I don't think anyone here is scared of carbs. I eat a moderate amount of so-called 'safe' starches which include potatoes, sweet potatoes and squash. In everything I've read, all are agreed that grains are to be totally avoided. I eat fruit, berries are best, but it's one of my trigger foods ie once I start I find it difficult to stop so I have to be careful. Some particular types of veg in moderation but most veg is fine. Legumes are out.

In fact it surprises me just how much food is not off limits. I'm very new to this and trying to get used to being without sugar or more precisely, sweeteners but that craving comes and goes and I'm coping. I'm also being a bit of a pig with dairy Still I'm learning and I know it'll take time but I'm feeling the benefits already.

This is undoubtedly NOT a fad diet. One of the reasons that I always thought it so, was because of the books that promote it as such (not in those words perhaps). There are so many different titles by so many different authors, and a high percentage of those telling us this is 'new', 'fast', 'revolutionary' etc. They have to sell books so that's understandable but in fact this is a healthy way of eating that doesn't stop when the weight comes off.

murphydog999

Lilith1980 wrote: »

I go to the gym most days, and try and mix up my workouts. One week I might do predominantly cardio (treadmill/cross-trainer), but this week I am doing 15 minutes cardio with the remaining 45 minutes using weights on my legs and arms, with some ab exercises. I try and mix it up so my body doesn’t get used to one thing and I stop any progress.

However, I have been told by someone I know who is a personal trainer that cardio is no good for fat loss and that weights are?

As for my diet, I think I eat relatively healthy but this same personal trainer recommended the Paleo diet and that cutting carbs will help me lose fat. I am not really keen on cutting carbs out all together, but more reducing them. That said, I am concerned about low energy levels and kidney/liver disease - are these things unfounded in relation to such diets? How much should I cut down on carbs if I don't want to cut them all together?

Hi, that personal trainer sounds like he/she knows their stuff and isn't just toeing the government line - these educated people are out there.

Forget cardio, pounding treadmills etc etc its an easy way to ruin your joints and age you quicker. There is far more good science and emphasis now on either short and sharp - like circuits - working with resistance (weights, bands etc) and slow and controlled (like pilates).You don't need to spend hours down the gym, take half the time, work hard when you are there, and use the rest of the time to enjoy other activities.

Do not be concerned with the myths surrounding cutting carbs, if they were true we would all be quivering wrecks by now, I'm sure everyone will agree with me when I say we actually have more energy not less.

The kidney disease issue came about because of the high protein diets that came about with 'Atkins.' If you have problems to start with then it could be a problem, and excess protein can put a strain on the kidneys, but you would need to eat an amount most people couldn't deal with, and for a significant amount of time.

Cutting carbs is exactly that, not NO carbs (which is not sustainable) or cutting out a complete food group. If you cut out the 'heavy' carbs - bread, pasta, potatoes, rice - anything wheat based, such as biscuits, cake, crackers, most breakfast cereals, sugar in all its forms - including sweeteners (maybe stevia in small amounts), most fruits (berries are ok though) and go easy on starchy/root veg like carrots and parsnips - go for lots of greens, thats it.

Take out any fizzy drinks and processed food you may have (ready meals etc), replace no/low-fat products with the unadultered full-fat version, and you will notice a big difference, not only in your appearance (if you are prone to water retention this will cure you - a big claim but it's true) but in your energy levels, and your skin, you will also feel less hungry - carbs fuel hunger!

It is really simple and most important, as I mentioned, it's a sustainable lifestyle choice/way of eating.

If you haven't heard of Mark Sissons before or his website marksdailyapple, check them out, they are a good reference and resource.

Lilith1980

Thanks very much for this murphydog

In terms of 'no carbs' - I thought that's what the paleo diet was? Or is it cutting the heavy carbs and continuing to have other carbs in the form of greens?

Do you follow a particular diet?