Low-carb diets support thread

murphydog999

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Sometimes I'll eat two bananas in a day depending how hard I've worked in the gym. They are little power packs of nutrients and energy.

The majority of a banana's nutritional value comes from sugar, being 93% carbs........

The good: This food is very low in Saturated Fat, Cholesterol and Sodium. It is also a good source of Dietary Fiber, Vitamin C, Potassium and Manganese, and a very good source of Vitamin B6.

The bad: A large portion of the calories in this food come from sugars. This applies to all fruit, but..........

of the 27g carb in a medium banana, 14g are sugars, starch and 3g fibre make up the rest,

of the 12g carb in similar weight of raspberries 4g is sugars, with 6g fibre
The good: This food is very low in Saturated Fat, Cholesterol and Sodium. It is also a good source of Vitamin K and Magnesium, and a very good source of Dietary Fiber, Vitamin C and Manganese.

Surely a better choice for those who are restricting carbs/sugars? However hard you have been working in the gym, 54g sugary carbs isn't the best answer for re-fuel. You would get more benefit from a small glass of full-fat milk and a handful of mixed nuts, post workout

daska

An apology and an explanation:

This is not my thread and I don't want anyone feeling that I feel I have a right to dictate who can or can't post here. And I apologise wholeheartedly to anyone who feels that I persecuted or unjustly criticised AB.

But at the same time, I had to conclude that if AB genuinely wasn't trolling then he must be incredibly obtuse, and his writing style give the lie to that. He was clearly challenged several times, by several posters, and continued to post in a way that was highly critical, inaccurate and/ or would mislead anyone who wasn't already confident about LC.

If he had made sure his posts included a recognition that what he was proposing didn't fit the WOE this thread supports but wanted to highlight that say x amount of y fruit might solve a problem without overly compromising our WOE then it would have been very different, I for one would have welcomed him with open arms because differing viewpoints and areas of knowledge are useful.

No-one should feel they can't come and post on here simply because they don't think of themselves as eating low carb (though I still think anyone who cuts out sugar probably qualifies automatically in the context of what so many people eat LOL). As long as it remains a support thread for low carb their presence only increases the benefits to everyone here.

inspirespirit

Well, I for one am really annoyed. Being new here, and as people said, this is a support thread..... I thought AB was being serious !!! I assumed everyone on here knew a lot more about low carb than me and will be following the recipes. When he said he was giving us a 'Gift' with the banana recipe and then the parnsip soup, I was genuinely going to try both of those. It isn't the easiest of diets to follow which is exactly why I've joined a support thread. I can do without being misled and given wrong information, AB !!

On a different note.... was going to make a curry today and was very disappointed to find coconut cream sachets (that I love in curry) are actually high in carbs!! Glad I looked cos I assumed they would be low. I bought the tinned coconut milk instead but it works out much more expensive and I only really want a small amount, so unless I can think of something else to make in the next day or so with coconut milk, it will be wasted.

murphydog999

inspirespirit wrote: »

I bought the tinned coconut milk instead but it works out much more expensive and I only really want a small amount, so unless I can think of something else to make in the next day or so with coconut milk, it will be wasted.

Have a look a few pages back at my posts 14044 and 14073, a couple of ideas for you there. You can also use it in almond pancakes.
1/4 cup coconut milk
1/2 cup ground almonds
1 egg
2 tablespoons almond butter (opt, it works with or without)
handful of blueberries (chopped strawberries also works well)
Mix and the wet stuff, fold in the fruit, melt some butter or coconut oil in a frying pan and cook until set, turning once. This makes 3-4.

absolutebounder

daska wrote: »

I've taken you off ignore so that I can see what you're posting and correct your suggestions.

This is a support thread for people following a variety of low carbohydrate diets.

I don't dispute that parsnips are a good source of many wonderful things but they are also high in carbs and therefore unsuited to the majority of people here who are actively trying to reduce their intake. For instance other sources of potassium include mushrooms, coconut, herbs, cocoa, avocados, tuna or even artichoke hearts, are all better suited to a low-carb diet. If you had 'honestly' wanted to provide helpful support you could have suggested those.

Your suggestions and criticisms don't even recognise that some of us follow a low-carb lifestyle for medical reasons, it is particularly well suited to diabetics. Your suggestions would actually impair these poeple's health rather than improve it. All for the sake of you having a bit of fun goading and misleading people.

You neither follow this kind of diet nor offer support suited to it. Your posts either criticise our choices or knowingly make suggestions which do not fit with our chosen lifestyles. So I suggest you take your own advice as you have no 'honest' reason to continue posting here.

Do you know life is for living and enjoying. I eat a fairly low carb diet but I dont obsess over it just because I have read a couple of books on it. Parsnips may be slightly higher in carbs but are not that high and parsnip soup is delicious. its not like you are going to have it every day. When I was at university we used to have a club looking at the bull in theories and books. its a pity we never published our findings or ben Goldacre would have missed out.
yes some people may have medical problems and they should give first priority to listen to their consultants and GPs not a forum like this.
my grandmother was diabetic and managed to eat rather a lot of things that you think should kill her. she go well into her nineties before she died ao while you theory may be good the practice may not be quite so good.
You would notice my banana surprise didnt have any bananas in it. It was a fairly low carb desert that TASTED good and wasnt filled with chemicals.
If you want to believe all that you read in an Atkins book then fine but you will do far better with fat loss by exercise than his induction phase which I could easily argue is dangerous and stupid.
As you said it is a support thread and not your personal thread. Support can come from having a variety of Ideas to choose from.
as I have said before the body could in theory do without carbs altogether but you would most likely produce a boring and more importantly a diet lacking in vital nutrients, vitamins and minerals.
i enjoy tasy food that is not high in carbs but Im sorry if it doesnt have exact amounts to the nearest gram. I am not OCD.

Mercy

daska wrote: »

An apology and an explanation:

This is not my thread and I don't want anyone feeling that I feel I have a right to dictate who can or can't post here. And I apologise wholeheartedly to anyone who feels that I persecuted or unjustly criticised AB.

But at the same time, I had to conclude that if AB genuinely wasn't trolling then he must be incredibly obtuse, and his writing style give the lie to that. He was clearly challenged several times, by several posters, and continued to post in a way that was highly critical, inaccurate and/ or would mislead anyone who wasn't already confident about LC.

If he had made sure his posts included a recognition that what he was proposing didn't fit the WOE this thread supports but wanted to highlight that say x amount of y fruit might solve a problem without overly compromising our WOE then it would have been very different, I for one would have welcomed him with open arms because differing viewpoints and areas of knowledge are useful.

No-one should feel they can't come and post on here simply because they don't think of themselves as eating low carb (though I still think anyone who cuts out sugar probably qualifies automatically in the context of what so many people eat LOL). As long as it remains a support thread for low carb their presence only increases the benefits to everyone here.

I fully and completely agree with all you say here. :beer:

Mx

murphydog999

daska wrote: »

An apology and an explanation:

I don't think you needed to apologise - has someone said something?

You are just standing up for what we all believe and practice, it is a big subject and a big learning curve for all of us; whilst there is no substitute for not doing your own research, the information on here is really useful.

People are generally LC'ing for a reason, and whilst it would be wrong to knock the value of parsnips and bananas (just as 2 examples ) as part of healthy eating, they are probably not the first choice of most people who are trying to restrict carbs, and so probably not the most ideal foods to bring up on a low-carb thread.

Wasn't that what you were saying?

absolutebounder

murphydog999 wrote: »

People are generally LC'ing for a reason, and whilst it would be wrong to knock the value of parsnips and bananas (just as 2 examples ) as part of healthy eating, they are probably not the first choice of most people who are trying to restrict carbs, and so probably not the most ideal foods to bring up on a low-carb thread.

Wasn't that what you were saying?

People probably are eating low carbs for a variety of reasons but there comes a point where you get obsessed with the carbs and forget the nutrients. I put the list of so called superfoods up to show that things are present in foods with carbs. Thing is that you are not going to eat a massive amount of them. I have not said eat bananas every day or parsnips or anything else. its like the person who possibly on this thread mentioned tomato ketchup. yes its got sugars but you dont usually use much do you?
maybe I am at fault for not thinking that anyone with a serious medical reason for not eating any carbs would already know what they can and cannot eat sorry.

andrewsmum

marrbett wrote: »

Great news! Well done.xx:j

Thaanks Marrbett

andrewsmum

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

I've highlighted the reason for your drop in blood glucose levels. Low fat foods are HIGH IN SUGAR and since you've cut these out of your diet you're seeing positive results :T

I was aware of this Chameleon but when you are diagnosed you have 99.9% of health proffesionals etc saying the way to go is eating carbs like jacket potatoes, brown rice, pata etc. Sometimes its hard to stand by your convictions to go the low carb route. Having had good results back it just proves going the low carb way, by this I mean cutting out most carbs they tell us we must eat, actually works.......for me anyway. We are all different.

This is the way I choose to eat and this is why I read this low carb support thread as it really helps discussing meals and ideas etc with like minded people.