Low-carb diets support thread

Edwardia

I was talking about fasting though not coconut oil - bought some and will be trying that.

At the moment I feel ill as giving up artificial sweeteners and diet Pepsi seems to have me in carb/caffeine withdrawal.

sistercas

mazzers wrote: »

I'm like that with sweeteners, cut down to half a sweetener once honest.. sharp knife and..whack, but just couldn't drink tea without, never have sweetened coffee tho.

I am attempting IF today, no good me trying eat when you're hungry or i'd eat every half hour!

good point , i think i will only IF at work

mazzers wrote: »

I think you are...firstly it's IF not IT

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Sheila it does make sense to me because when i IF i generally eat less in 24 hrs which helps me to lose weight, also i think it gives my insulin a break ( cant prove this though and actually i dont care about the mechanics of it as long as i lose weight ) i also feel less sluggish


I cant see a problem with diet controlled diabetics fasting as long as their diet was healthy , i understand those taking sugar lowering drugs may have a problem though

schoolhouse good luck with the new job

just cooking some salmon for lunch

mummyofboys

Morning everyone

Firstly big thankyou to you all for doing your lists for me it is a great help!!

Third day for me, I still feel very sluggish and having serious cravings at about 9pm for my usual chocolate... trying to diminish them with water!

My dad commented today as I was making bacon,saying I should just do low carb not no carb, but I am by including veg ect right? I do feel abit unhealthy eating bacon lol it is so weird to get your body used to new ways of eating!

I weighed myself today as I havn't got a start weight. I weighed in at 15 stone 10 jeez I feel like I have a huge mountain to climb.

I am 5'8 so I would like to get to around 10 stone five.

Thanks all again for your support!

daska

Edwardia wrote: »

I was talking about fasting though not coconut oil - bought some and will be trying that.

At the moment I feel ill as giving up artificial sweeteners and diet Pepsi seems to have me in carb/caffeine withdrawal.

sorry

perhaps you should be reducing your intake more gradually rather than cutting it out entirely. Caffeine withdrawal is nasty.

Obviously if you're using meds to control your BS then fasting would has to be very carefully managed. But I found another link to support eating oil lowering BS at http://www.diabetes-warrior.net/2011/04/22/coconut-oil-fast-is-over/. And my own results show that it appears to have a beneficial effect not just when fasting but when eating low carb as well. How it would work for someone who isn't low carbing I have no idea but one of the things that originally led me to coconut oil was seeing anecdotal reports of people saying it was helping them.

And, while your blood sugars rise, how fast does this happen? If you think about the leangains version of IF, the 10 hour eating window for women would allow for either breakfast or a late night snack, hardly what most people would consider fasting, and a 24 hour fast, e.g. supper to supper, is only skipping 2 meals, not 3 (that would be more like 34 hours).

I might just dig out my kit and check it over a few days (though it'll have to be limited to waking and pre-break-fast as I've only got a few test strips left). I frequently don't eat until afternoon - just beginning to fancy a little something now LOL but that's probably only because writing this post is making me think about it; I'm not ravenous in the way I would be if I could smell bread baking.

daska

mummyofboys wrote: »

Morning everyone

Firstly big thankyou to you all for doing your lists for me it is a great help!!

Third day for me, I still feel very sluggish and having serious cravings at about 9pm for my usual chocolate... trying to diminish them with water!

My dad commented today as I was making bacon,saying I should just do low carb not no carb, but I am by including veg ect right? I do feel abit unhealthy eating bacon lol it is so weird to get your body used to new ways of eating!

I weighed myself today as I havn't got a start weight. I weighed in at 15 stone 10 jeez I feel like I have a huge mountain to climb.

I am 5'8 so I would like to get to around 10 stone five.

Thanks all again for your support!

You're right. There seem to be all sorts of ways of describing the degree of restriction with different amounts of carbs: very low carb, ultra low carb, moderate carb and there doesn't seem to be any consensus as to what constitutes what.

If he brings up the subject again remember you could point out that the body can manufacture it's own glucose for the organs that require it e.g. the heart.

mummyofboys

I think he thinks by eating so much fat I am going to clog up my arteries ect!

daska

mummyofboys wrote: »

I think he thinks by eating so much fat I am going to clog up my arteries ect!

Is he going to be nagging you day in day out? It might be worth suggesting a compromise. He, and you, read a decent book on the subject so you can talk about it in an informed way and you agree to get your cholesterol etc tested. Remembering of course that cholesterol is stored in the fat and as you mobilise the fat the cholestorol will enter the blood stream (but it'll be on the way out), apparently this really begins to be really marked when you have lost around 30lb (IIRC that's 30lb of fat, so after water loss about 35-40lb off your starting weight). So proving it is really a long term thing and you'll be more likely to be successful if you haven't got a doubting Thomas at your elbow.

Sunnyday

SHEILA54 wrote: »

Sunnyday - how are you doing?

Rushing out so will post later. Have a good day everyone

Hi Peeps :wave:

not so well atm Sheila Thanks for asking though :A

My get up and go seems to have got up and gone

Diets gone out of the window the last couple of weeks and i'm not in a good place atm, i'm sort of half heartedly reading every now and again and no doubt that i will be back - its just a question of when.

Seem to have a lot of bad luck recently and its really knocked my duck off. Also lost our little old doggie at the weekend and i just can't seem to pick myself up again after that - just keep ending up in floods of tears when i least expect it

Today is my day off and a pal is calling around soon so i`d best pull myself together, good to hear that you are still all doing well, i hope to join you again sooner rather than later:)

Keep up the good work peeps!

SD

mummyofboys

daska wrote: »

Is he going to be nagging you day in day out? It might be worth suggesting a compromise. He, and you, read a decent book on the subject so you can talk about it in an informed way and you agree to get your cholesterol etc tested. Remembering of course that cholesterol is stored in the fat and as you mobilise the fat the cholestorol will enter the blood stream (but it'll be on the way out), apparently this really begins to be really marked when you have lost around 30lb (IIRC that's 30lb of fat, so after water loss about 35-40lb off your starting weight). So proving it is really a long term thing and you'll be more likely to be successful if you haven't got a doubting Thomas at your elbow.

No luckily he doesn't live with me so I won't have to hear it day in day out, I have the builders in at the mo so I made my breakfast of bacon here so thats why he poked his nose in! Thanks for that helpful information I think I will read a book on the diet, can you recommend one to get me started?

The way I see it, being nearly 16 stone isn't helping my heart or my arteries and neither is the takeouts and junk food I was having on a regular basis so I think losing weight can only improve my health!

Edwardia

Sorry to hear about your loss Sunnyday it's terrible to lose a beloved pet, I know (((Sunnyday)))

daska, once I feel a bit better I'll go see GP and get him to swap Amaryl (glimeperide) and Januvia (sitagliptin) for Prandin (repaglinide).

Amaryl is a sulfyronea (herbicide !) causes hypos and is associated with increase in heart attacks.

Januvia is a DPP-4 inhibitor which raises cancer risks.

Prandin has less heart attack risk and works by raising insulin only in response to food whereas Amaryl raises insulin levels for 12 hrs

My theory is that if I let my beta cells recover from glimeperide and use a drug which mimics natural response to food, then I'll stabilise.

At the moment I feel that there's too much insulin sloshing around in my blood and it makes me more insulin resistant.

I'm stressed so much of the blood glucose in my blood is from glycogen liver dumps so the Metformin does work for me to lessen that. I've tested and that's the only drug that makes a definite difference. It's heart protective and in a recent study it seems it might be cancer protective and not just for people with diabetes.

I will probably leave MSE shortly as I'm fed up with people on other threads attacking me for being a low carber. I don't know why other people are so concerned about my arteries furring up lol