the daydream fund challenge thread

alfie_1

P.s. Lir....:rotfl::rotfl: concern for me whilst you have walls falling around you, absent DOH, HUGE amount of work surrounding you plus your own probs....:iloveyou: :rotfl:

lostinrates

alfie_1 wrote: »

P.s. Lir....:rotfl::rotfl: concern for me whilst you have walls falling around you, absent DOH, HUGE amount of work surrounding you plus your own probs....:iloveyou: :rotfl:

I'm doing ok and I am concerned about you! Look, its worth having the scan...seeing whats what....if its not connected a tonne of weight will lift off your shoulders..and if it is then you won't feel any worse about it!

choille

On a technical note.... could someone give me some advice? I have a steel portal frame supporting the vaulted ceiling and open plan part of my building, the stantions round the steels had to be dug out and repored when the steels were put in way back in mid august, however they've never completely dried, infact when i put my damp meter on them, they literally scream! My problem is my polished concrete floor is about to be poured on wednesday over the top of this. My builders are trying to convince me it's not really wet, and can be sealed in with some compound or other and a DPM put over the top of them. My argumant is the reason they've never dried is they are the wrong mix, too much sand, and we shouldn't put big pads of dpm over as there is then no adhesion between the two parts of the floor. When the stantions were redug, and filled the structural engineer said not to put dpm in as it would stop the two areas bonding, why wouldn;t that apply to these two conrete floors too?

Where's the insulation Kazcow?
Do you have any insulation in the floor at all?
You have to have a DPM in a floor.
There must be e structural reason why the Engineer wants an adhesion btw the concrete slab & the column pads/stansion pads.
One assumes having a polished concrete floor - you gonna have vinyl, carpet, otherwise why have a polished floor?
I'll repeat - You must have a DPM in a floor.

CTC - Please can I have a link to your ground?

Alfie - You really must go & see about your headaches so that you know what's what - the worry of the unknown can't be helping.

And guess what? It's poured down today & is decidely bitter out - bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Davesnave

I agree with lir. It's not very nice when a house is misbehaving, but it's only bricks & mortar, so it will fix, even if left too late and it crumbles.

Human beings are far too precious to take chances like that, especially kind ones that look after needy animals! :A

Davesnave

I don't know a huge amount about building, but I'm currently wondering if portal frame might be the way for us to go here at the front. If we can't have a full first floor, then maybe we could have a vaulted roof and a mezzanine level to catch those views. We are lucky in having a semi-integral garage that goes way in front of the main building line, giving us the option to build forwards. I'm not sure that the local authority would go for all that glass though.

Our problem is that we bought this place with the limited ambition of tarting it up a bit, so we didn't go too deeply into the implications of attempting more than that. We also didn't realise we had a potential view. I know that sounds daft, but we were focused very tightly on other stuff at the time.

A couple of days of drizzle and westerly wind have enabled much burning of rubbish, if nothing else. The grass is still growing relentlessly and so are the weeds. Despite buying a different mole trap, our resident burrower is making monkeys of us.:mad: He/she has cracked it; simply never backtrack!

kazschow

choille wrote: »

Where's the insulation Kazcow?
Do you have any insulation in the floor at all?
You have to have a DPM in a floor.
There must be e structural reason why the Engineer wants an adhesion btw the concrete slab & the column pads/stansion pads.
One assumes having a polished concrete floor - you gonna have vinyl, carpet, otherwise why have a polished floor?
I'll repeat - You must have a DPM in a floor.

My founds have a 100mm of kingspan insulation, and a dpm was layed before the pour. However, there was a problem with the stantions the steels were to be sat on, they were off, so had to be redug, and filled, when they were filled with the new mix, the engineer said not to put in a new DPm as this would have to go down the sides of the holes and there would be no adhesion between the existing pad and the new fills, the steels are enormous btw, and form the majority of the load bearing in that end of the house, so it was critical the stantions for them had a souns tie to the floor.

As for the polished floor, this my final finish, no carpets etc, it's going to be seeded with glass, and diamond polished and epoxy resined.

kazschow

alfie_1 wrote: »

KAZSCHOW....i tried to explain structural dilema to a friends architect/surveyor and he said obviously without all info he cant be sure but he cannot see that more cement can be poured on top of any cement thats not set. it would loose the bond and shrinkage etc could make the whole set up unstable. he was surprised that those that want to lay the floor [if they are same that put other in] are not bothered it hadnt "gone off"!! and queried if they are garanteeing the work if they didnt do 1st fill. then they cant blame someone else. he suggested postponing floor till this was sorted as could be a horrendous long legal wrangle if problems occur and the "evidence " is now buried......

Alfie it's all being done by the one company, from start to finish, and yup they are guaranteeing it.

choille

Kazchow - How does the Engineer gaurentee that the floor will dry.
Basically if you don't have a DPM then you won't have a dry floor & what's the point in having insulation coz the floor will be wet & cold no matter what type it is as the wet will draw up.

It doesn't sound a proper buiilding solution - sounds like a major........technical term now ..... a great big F up & certainly doesn't comply with Building Standards.

alfie_1

kazschow wrote: »

Alfie it's all being done by the one company, from start to finish, and yup they are guaranteeing it.

do you know if there is a water course under the build that has MAYBE found its way to the interupted DPM ? depends how deep your columns go ? knowing that the type of finished floor you are going for the last thing you can do is lift it after due to a problem...? perhaps requesting a guaruntee[still cant spell that !!] lodged with a solicitor in the event of that happening to TOTALLY put right any misdamenours in the future may make the builders re think thier confidence? sounds drastic but not half as drastic as a major c**kup !!

choille

I think I understand what has happened & why, but basically you need a continuous DPM & insulation or you get dew points - cold bridging & that will be a big problem re a wet, cold floor.
Someone is cutting corners coz of their muck up, but it needs sorting properly as it will not go away.