Public sector monster needs to be tamed

StevieJ

donaldtramp wrote: »

The Times
March 10, 2009
Defined-benefit pensions must be declined — and killed off


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/management/article5877008.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=1185799

I take it you missed out on a defined benefit Declined :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

brightonman123

methinks the current govt are using' future' tax income, cos they wont be around by then to have to pay it back..

probably end up on some tax haven beach, earning 2.0%..(even fat cats suffer!)

Cleaver

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

If we ALL worked for the council then who'd pay our wages & pensions?

Duh. The Council would. Do keep up.

Cleaver

donaldtramp wrote: »

I enjoy working.
I couldn't bring myself to enjoy a bullet proof pension that is denied to the average person. People on low wages are supporting people in Council pensions.
I see no reason to take 3 weeks a year sick leave. I enjoy working.
I never see the need to threaten strikes to force my needs onto the general population.
I couldn't work in an environment where 1970's union mentatilty is rife.
I couldn't work with people who are below par and have to cover for their lack of work.
I don't think I'll see the need to retire at 50.
I don't think I could justify a wage that is higher than a similar position in the private sector who would be paying my wages.
I believe Britain should be cutting red tape not increasing it and strangling businesses.
I couldn't work with a service that is supposed to be actually serving people and not a tax consuming monster.
I believe Britain would be a far more dynamic and prosperous place if people chose to take risks and chances in business not just suckle up to the teat that is public sector payroll. Anything for an easy life eh?
I could not bear to see the incompetence and waste that goes on first hand. If this happens in the private sector, companies go under and jobs are lost. Public sector just goes cap in hand to the government. No jobs lost, no incompetents thrown out and the waste continues.

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beingjdc

donaldtramp wrote: »

I also contribute to my pension.
BUT
It isn't final salary,

Well then, the value of your pension went up 6% today. Cheer up :beer:

donaldtramp

Cliche... and... sounndbite.... overload.... <cough> ..... must... find.... facts.... Drowning.... in.... <glug> .... subjecture .... arrrrrggghhh......... Get. Help. Quick........ zzzz....

Yeh yeh, If labour doesn't get it's finger out and do something, I'll wager the next government will. Don't get too cocky!

Well then, the value of your pension went up 6% today. Cheer up :beer:

Its only a matter of time till these pensions are reeled in!
Keep enjoying it while it lasts. Not long now......

bigheadxx

beingjdc wrote: »

Well then, the value of your pension went up 6% today. Cheer up :beer:

Im sure the government will find something to spend it on.

pickles110564

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Because the 'few' are costing hundreds of billions - and this cost is unaffordable given the state of the economy (and likely to be so for the next 20 years).
Because the income of the 'few' is being underwritten by people who are likely to be impoverished in their old age.
Because the 'few' get decent (even good) wages. Why shouldn't we all be treated equal - why should the 'few' get benefits that are denied the many?
Because we're handing down a massive amount of debt and accrued liabilities to the younger generations - what have they done to deserve that?

Don't assume I haven't written to my MP either.

Move to Moscow mate, everything is equal there.

beingjdc

donaldtramp wrote: »

Its only a matter of time till these pensions are reeled in!
Keep enjoying it while it lasts. Not long now......

I'm not in the pension scheme, I've told you this before.

donaldtramp

In Britain some people are more equal than others.
Your better off here if you work in certain sectors.