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Negative Paternity Test

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  • simpywimpy wrote: »
    Is your name on the birth certificate? I've just looked into doing a test for my son and his child and it states you have to have parental responsibility ie named on certificate or else you need the mothers permission to take the sample.

    Just a though.....

    If nothing else, this has made me push for a test doing in our family. I have the kit ready but I think my son is nervous of doing it. Better now though than years down the line.

    we did one called paternity peace of mind test, didnt need the mothers concent, but it doesnt stand up in court or through the csa
  • pd001
    pd001 Posts: 871 Forumite
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    LouLee2008 wrote: »
    when we had to claim our money back in regards to same situation, it took alot longer then weeks, and resulted in the pwc recieving the money we were due back!!!

    now that is a very bad mistake indeed!

    My original question still stands..I wonder how long it will take the csa to refund £30k
  • well to refund the 2k we had took couple of months! so i wouldnt hold ur breathe for it lol
  • monicaj
    monicaj Posts: 216 Forumite
    Thank you all for your posts.

    It's good to know there is an option to reclaim monies paid if we decide to take that route, there is conflicting advice on the CSA website - we have aslo discussed doing nothing and just living with this, though in reality we know that would be the wrong thing to do.

    I think this is going to be a very difficult time I just feel we will be sitting on a time bomb as soon as the mother is made aware of our findings.

    As far as I'm concerned she has committed the most serious fraud - her son's identity. There is one thing for sure my husband is not prepared to "pay per view" for this child. He seems to accept there is a possibility that she will try to cut contact and says he will deal with and fight that as and when. We're going to see a solicitor next week so he's fully prepared with the facts before he meets with her.

    We will keep you posted.
  • LouLee2008 wrote: »
    we did one called paternity peace of mind test, didnt need the mothers concent, but it doesnt stand up in court or through the csa

    OP, sorry for going off topic OP, but I thought the following information might be helpful for anyone else in this situation:

    S"ince September 2006, it has been a crime in the UK to take human bodily material with the intent of analysing DNA without consent. That includes hairs on a brush, saliva on a toothbrush - anything containing enough cells to extract a usable sample of DNA. Nobody has yet been prosecuted, but the penalty is a fine and a prison sentence of up to three years."

    Technically, it is illegal to take a sample from a child who you do not have parental responsibility for.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126924.100-special-investigation-whos-testing-your-dna.html?page=2
    Stay-at-home, attached Mummy to a 23lb 10oz, 11 month old baby boy.
  • catmiaow
    catmiaow Posts: 5,954 Forumite
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    I must say I can't stand it when a woman says to a man that the child is his, they bond and then years later he finds out he is not. I think these kind of women are very cruel!!!
    No you're not a vegetarian if you eat any animal or fish, so do not insult genuine veggies by calling yourself one! :mad:

    Thanks to everyone who posts competitions. You are the stars of the board :T:j:T
  • monicaj
    monicaj Posts: 216 Forumite
    OP, sorry for going off topic OP, but I thought the following information might be helpful for anyone else in this situation:

    S"ince September 2006, it has been a crime in the UK to take human bodily material with the intent of analysing DNA without consent. That includes hairs on a brush, saliva on a toothbrush - anything containing enough cells to extract a usable sample of DNA. Nobody has yet been prosecuted, but the penalty is a fine and a prison sentence of up to three years."

    Technically, it is illegal to take a sample from a child who you do not have parental responsibility for.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126924.100-special-investigation-whos-testing-your-dna.html?page=2

    Very good point - thankfully my husband has parental responsibility
  • hi i really dont know if this will help but my friend and her husband went through the same thing a couple of years ago ,
    they came up with the solution that no more money would be paid direct to the mother but put into an account for the child to use ,in that when the child was with them if he needed new clothes or if he wanted a new game or suchlike then the money would then be used for that ,

    as her dh said he had been a dad to him for 12 yrs there was no way he was going to take that away from him now ,

    they still have him every weekend and still take him on holiday with them and he is still treated as his son , he loved him and to him it didnt matter if he wasnt his paternal father ,
    they only found out when the child real father had died and had left money in a trust for the child the real dad was my friends husbands best friend and they had discused over the years as to whom was the father ,but the mother insisted it was my friends husbands ,he was happy to accept this as he had always wanted to be a father .
    they did explain to the child that friends dh was not his biological dad but that he was still and always would be his dad .

    so i suppose it all boils down to how much your dh loves the child and how he could deal with the possibility of losing what in his eyes has been his son
  • Thanks for keeping us updated monicaj, I sincerely hope that the best comes of this for everyone.

    I cannot imagine what you all must be going through - I do agree it is a ticking timebomb and best be ready for the fall out in advance and find out what the best thing to do is via the solicitor. Did your husband get PR through the courts? Would they then take this away from him after all this time if he is not the boys father after all. What a horrible situation for you all.
  • monicaj
    monicaj Posts: 216 Forumite
    hi i really dont know if this will help but my friend and her husband went through the same thing a couple of years ago ,
    they came up with the solution that no more money would be paid direct to the mother but put into an account for the child to use ,in that when the child was with them if he needed new clothes or if he wanted a new game or suchlike then the money would then be used for that ,

    as her dh said he had been a dad to him for 12 yrs there was no way he was going to take that away from him now ,

    they still have him every weekend and still take him on holiday with them and he is still treated as his son , he loved him and to him it didnt matter if he wasnt his paternal father ,
    they only found out when the child real father had died and had left money in a trust for the child the real dad was my friends husbands best friend and they had discused over the years as to whom was the father ,but the mother insisted it was my friends husbands ,he was happy to accept this as he had always wanted to be a father .
    they did explain to the child that friends dh was not his biological dad but that he was still and always would be his dad .

    so i suppose it all boils down to how much your dh loves the child and how he could deal with the possibility of losing what in his eyes has been his son

    Thank you so much for sharing this. It certainly gives us some hope that the mother will agree to my husband maintaining his relationship with his son and her being "sensible" about the best solution for the child - only time will tell. We have had similar thoughts on putting money into his savings - but at the back of our minds we have this "if you don't pay, you don't see" scenario. Horrible, horrible ..............
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