Depression Support Thread

rosepink1984

gibboelli wrote: »

It's nice to know I'm not the only one with uncontrollable crying fits. Anything sets me off, the tiniest comment, my computer crashing, an animal in a nature show getting eating, dropping something, it really is quite ridiculous. It's no so bad when I'm inside because I'll cry and usually my mum makes a joke about it and I feel better but it's really exhausting and humiliating when I'm outside my house. When I was on the verge of tears because I'd counted some money out wrong at a checkout the stupid woman working there said to me "No need to be so hormonal"
Well that did it then and there, I left my shopping and ran for cover to havre a sob and felt like a total faliure the rest of the week.
It's funny, suffered from depression since I was 11 and take anti depressents but random symptoms come and go. The crying thing only started up again lately. Guess I just go through cycles.
Nice to see all these other people on here dealing with the same sort of things

Oh yeah, I can really relate to this. I've been crying on and off all afternoon. My support worker came round and I spent nearly the whole time crying. Haven't seen her for a while and was telling her all about my work problems and how helpless, powerless and hopeless I feel about it all.
I just can't seem to shake it off. I've been feeling more and more down for weeks and can't pick myself up. I seem to be going backwards. I was doing so well, and recovering much quicker from bad days. Now I just want to hide away at home and cry. I don't want to go out and see anyone, but I don't want to be here either as we live in a bedsit and it's horrible.
I've gone off food too, which is a really bad sign. Normally I comfort eat. Not eating is when it's really really bad.
I just feel so hopeless. I've done all the things I normally do to make myself feel better.


Really glad you are having a good day Katie, and that you've got your phone sorted. It's important to keep in touch with family.

beachbeth

Sorry to hear how bad you feel, Rosepink and Gibboelli. I can totally relate to how you feel. I wish I could help you more but all I can say is that I totally sympathise and have gone through the same feelings myself. Other people can say the wrong things without realising what impact they are having on you. Don't let them drag you down - they don't understand. People here, however, do. Hugs for you and hope you are feeling better tomorrow.

EthelBloggs

hiya guys :hello:

Not been around much and been struggling a bit tbh. I discovered that my father has died recently but because there's been no contact with him for years it's proving very difficult to find him or even to find out what happened to him. As far as I'm aware I'm his next of kin. There's no need for condolences or anything like that, I wasn't close to him, hadn't seen him in many years so the loss I feel is more of a what might have been than anything else, does that make sense to anyone?

I've been struggling quite a bit with my depression lately which seems to have kicked back in with a vengeance, caused at least partly by some deficiencies which showed up in my last set of labs. In addition to that there have been some serious concerns with my daughter's health, I know some of you know a bit about her and I really don't want to go into it again but she had made such a great recovery and now it seems she's gone back about 2-3 years

Anyway, I know I need to see my gp to get some kind of meds started both for my depression and my bloods but I'm really struggling to find the courage to do so. And yes AB, I do need the meds, I've tried other remedies and nothing has helped so far.

Big huggs guys, I've not read back I'm afraid but much love to you all xxxx

gibboelli

Self harms a funny one isnt it? Just filling out my medical form for my ESA application and trying to find the best way to word my self harm sumptoms.
I've never cut my arms or legs or purposely wounded any part of my body except for my feet.
I pick them. Chronically. It started with just my toenails, then the skin round them. now the soles of my feet. I just cant seem to leave them alone. When I'm stressed I dont even realise I'm doing it til I start bleeding. It usually hurts to walk.
Does anyone else suffer from this? Or used to? Any ideas how I can stop? My doctor is less than interested, I've been thinking about finding another doctor but the usual fears of finding someone that will believe me and not try to get me off my tablets and the whole idea of talking to someone new is terrifying. So not really a good mode of support. Any ideas?

absolutebounder

Sssssss wrote: »

sorry AB but gotta agree with BB and all the others on this, stopping meds or even changing DOES have physical side effects, they are not imagined and nothing to do with depression or ones state of mind but real and as I say physical.

I always make up my meds for the week every sunday night (have one of those boxes with 4 compartments per day) and also make sure I've noted in my diary to go to the chemist 1 week before my supply runs out.

Hi Sssssss. Not picking on you either mate. Ive been away in LM country for a couple of days and I wrote my comments about Beachbeths sentence possibly a bit quickly because all i managed to do it seems was show what happens when someone just has words to look at. I say this because not one of you got what I was meaning. i was not telling anyone to stop meds or that it might be good for them to do so. I was questioning the structure of what BB said. People are quite right they may notice changes if the stop suddenly or even slowly for that matter but on the other side of the coin they may suffer side effects when they start or as Geminilady said they may be allergic to them but these things are not thought about when they are first prescribed, due to the trust placed in ones GP or psychiatrist. I was questioning the way the word can is often turned in to all.
It could have really been any sentence but I was just showing with the questions a few of the flaws in the sentence. It was such a nice example because nothing that BB said was untrue but at the same time a lot of it might not be true either. A bit like the half full / empty glass.
But read my post again and you will see it doesnt advise anything.

geminilady

absolutebounder wrote: »

Hi Sssssss. Not picking on you either mate. Ive been away in LM country for a couple of days and I wrote my comments about Beachbeths sentence possibly a bit quickly because all i managed to do it seems was show what happens when someone just has words to look at. I say this because not one of you got what I was meaning. i was not telling anyone to stop meds or that it might be good for them to do so. I was questioning the structure of what BB said. People are quite right they may notice changes if the stop suddenly or even slowly for that matter but on the other side of the coin they may suffer side effects when they start or as Geminilady said they may be allergic to them but these things are not thought about when they are first prescribed, due to the trust placed in ones GP or psychiatrist. I was questioning the way the word can is often turned in to all.
It could have really been any sentence but I was just showing with the questions a few of the flaws in the sentence. It was such a nice example because nothing that BB said was untrue but at the same time a lot of it might not be true either. A bit like the half full / empty glass.
But read my post again and you will see it doesnt advise anything.

I have read your post again and although it does not actually advise you do seem to be questioning beachbeth as you put questions under her statements and i for one thought you wanted an answer.By "flaws in the sentence" you are not talking about grammer but the content of the post and in the above post you say a lot of it might not be true,it seems to me Beacbeth was talking from her own experiance so in her case it is true.Also you say side effects are not thought of when starting medication of course they are all medication contains a list of possible side effects that people may or may not experiance.

geminilady

EthelBloggs wrote: »

hiya guys :hello:

Not been around much and been struggling a bit tbh. I discovered that my father has died recently but because there's been no contact with him for years it's proving very difficult to find him or even to find out what happened to him. As far as I'm aware I'm his next of kin. There's no need for condolences or anything like that, I wasn't close to him, hadn't seen him in many years so the loss I feel is more of a what might have been than anything else, does that make sense to anyone?

I've been struggling quite a bit with my depression lately which seems to have kicked back in with a vengeance, caused at least partly by some deficiencies which showed up in my last set of labs. In addition to that there have been some serious concerns with my daughter's health, I know some of you know a bit about her and I really don't want to go into it again but she had made such a great recovery and now it seems she's gone back about 2-3 years

Anyway, I know I need to see my gp to get some kind of meds started both for my depression and my bloods but I'm really struggling to find the courage to do so. And yes AB, I do need the meds, I've tried other remedies and nothing has helped so far.

Big huggs guys, I've not read back I'm afraid but much love to you all xxxx

Hi Ethel:hello: Great to see you posting but sorry you are struggling at the moment.I understand about your father i lost mine under similar circumstances and also had thoughts of what might have been.Also sorry to hear your daughter is ill again but she recovered before and hopefully will do so again.How is your son doing? if i remember he was a little younger than your daughter.Is there someone who could go with you to the doctors?it is sometimes easier that way but if you know you need medication for your blood then the sooner you go the better.Don't be a stranger it is lovely to see an old "face" as you can imagine lots have come and gone over the years but there are still a few of the old faithfuls about lol.

absolutebounder

geminilady wrote: »

I have read your post again and although it does not actually advise

Precisely

you do seem to be questioning beachbeth as you put questions under her statements

Precisely

and i for one thought you wanted an answer.

On a forum I would be very unlikely to get an exact answer to every point. That would only be likely to happen in a one to one situation.

By "flaws in the sentence" you are not talking about grammer but the content of the post

The grammar and words used give rise to the context and structure of the sentence. grammatically is was as good as anything written here but what was implied or said in it made it open to question and alternative views (as do most sentences)

and in the above post you say a lot of it might not be true,

Yes it might be true but something that might happen might also not happen. If one said say in 90% of cases xyz happens that means in 10% of cases something else happens. How do you know in advance whether you will be in the 90% or the 10%?

it seems to me Beacbeth was talking from her own experiance so in her case it is true.

In BB's original sentence there was no reference to her own situation and that led to one of my questions. Even if there had been there would have been a question along the lines of how do you know everyone else would be affected this way?

Also you say side effects are not thought of when starting medication of course they are all medication contains a list of possible side effects that people may or may not experiance.

AFAIK every single prescription medicine has side effects on taking them. Not all have side effects when stopping. How often do people read in depth the bit of paper inside the box and of those how many challenge the doctor? Also one thing that is not written on the paper is how effective the medicine is estimated to be. Ad's have recently been shown to be hardly more effective than a placebo but lets not let that cloud judgement as I could easily point out flaws in the detail of the survey but it does question whether the risks of side effects is worth the risk of the medicine working. These risks are questions for your doctor but the doctors I speak to say they are very rarely challenged on the stuff they prescribe.

When I answerd BBs sentence what I was actually doing was questioning a sentence in the style of one of the talking therapies to show that there neeeded to be a lot more in the sentence for true meaning to be understood and also highlight that a non depressed mind might see the sentence in a different light from that way it was written or meant.
Supposing the sentence had not been about meds but about cigarettes or alchohol. My questions could have been the same. That was why I said I wasnt picking on her. The sentence she put up was a lovely example of something that could be said by anyone, but just in the same way you have read into my post all sorts of things that werent there one could easily find that what was missing from the info in the sentence was probably more impotant than what was there.
One of the hardest things when dealing with depression is to get someone to see that every thought and action has an alternative and every thought affects your behavious and that affects your actions. This believe it or not is the flaw in the argument that depression is not my fault because I have a chemical imbalance. It sounds a great argument and im not going to say much here but the real fact is that since every thought produces a chemical neurotransmitter everyones brain is changing its chemical balance every split second. Bi polar people probably demonstrate this fact better than most.

beachbeth

absolutebounder wrote: »

Hi BB :A Im not picking on you but I would like to use your sentence to demonstrate a lesson in how depressed thinking works as you have put up such a wonderful example
I have just asked a few questions on each line but there could be a lot more but when you think about them you will see hopefully how the thought pattern can be changed. (very easily in fact.)

I didn't take it that you were picking on me, AB, so don't worry about it! However, your replies to me and RBK make me think that you have never taken AD's and so can't really discuss the effect of them in the same way we can.

I don't know which AD RBK is taking but I have had two different types. The first type made me very forgetful and woolly headed and the type Im on now doesn't have any effect except to make my mood better and make me feel less depressed. There are the fuzzy and dizzy side effects when first taking them and when stopping. This is also exactly what it says in the leaflet (Im the sort of person who does read the leaflets from beginning to end!!!:p )

You spoke about how my thought pattern could be changed, which implied that if I had certain therapy or changed my way of thinking then I wouldn't get the side effects, which just isn't true because they are a very physical side effect.

absolutebounder wrote:

on the bright side.
Lack of meds does allow you to see how much you really need them and probably allows you to think with a clearer head

How do you know you will have a clearer head if you stop taking meds? If you stop taking them and your depression returns or gets worse then your head will be far from clear.

My BIL takes a similar AD to me and his whole family, his workmates and myself can tell straight away when he has stopped taking them because he gets really irritated, moody and argumentative. When he starts taking them again this slowly disappears and he becomes lovely, laid-back and happy again.

beachbeth

1. It doesn't always work like that with these meds.
2. There are usually side effects when you suddenly stop taking them.
3. These effects can cause symptoms that make you feel less than clear headed to be honest.:rolleyes: This is why you are usually advised to stop gradually.

I'll quote my own post. I was being very careful in what I said because I didn't want to break any rules of this forum, but I think AB perhaps misunderstood what I meant. I'll try to be clearer:

1. I said this because I myself get side effects when stopping and starting and RBK said too that she didn't feel particularly clear headed, which made me think it was the same for her. So although not everyone will get these symptoms on starting and stopping some people will, which is why I said it doesn't always work like this.
2. For the first couple of days when taking them and for a few days after stopping the tablets I get dizzy spells, especially when bending down or getting up quickly, which makes me a bit fuzzy headed. This may or may not be the same for other people.
3. If you stop taking them gradually then these side effects will be less severe and it also gives your system time to get used to the lack of the medication.