been accused of taking £2000 from work advise asap please

deni100

my boss is just the manager her boss who i had meeting with is just like a area manager there is1/2 above him who own the franchise, i have contacted the police but there is nothing they can do but its been logged.

blue_monkey_2

Good luck deni, try not to worry. Let us know what ACAS and the CAB say. It is helpful to have somewhere to vent and get advice from, plus everything that is written down you have things to go back to. Try not to worry. If the police thought it was anything to do with you then you'd be arrested by now. And the worst that can happened is that you will be dismissed - fand the you can then take them to a tribunal for that as they cannot prove you have stoeln anything.

Your boss seems a bit dim by all accounts. I reckon they know they have screwed up and are digging a bigger and deeper hole for themselves.

yorkshirepud_2

Just to say i hope you get this sorted, sounds like they are pulling a fast one

CAB OR ACAS are definately your way forward.

I have had dealings with ACAS before and they are very helpful.
CAB Can give you phone advice or you can make an appointment to go see someone but they are usually pretty booked up.



Your employer is quite clearly in the wrong.

Procedures have not been followed. (2k under the desk what a muppet)

To reitterate the advice you have already been given, get everything in writting.

Your disciplinary procedures have not been followed correctly and if they Did terminate your contract which they would be wrong to do you would potentially have grounds for an unfair dismisal claim.




If you make statements you should be able to request a copy to ensure they are not tampered with.





GOOD LUCK MSE IS BEHIND YOU

A_little_stressed!!

Update us as soon as you can!

lucid2008

Also the shop manager should not be taking money home.What if she has taken it home and a member of her family has stolen it and they are now trying to cover their tracks ?

Voyager2002

Extraordinary.

I think you should go back to the police, but in person rather than just over the telephone. Ask them to investigate it as fraud by the shop manager: that way they will take care of the CCTV tapes before they are "accidentally" wiped. And let them know about the notes from the meeting that may have been doctored: they have ways of checking if this has actually occurred.

disfunktional

This is a complete farce.

I strongly recommend that you reattend the police station quoting the original log number and report harassment. They are duty bound to investigate your allegation and I would expect that they will sieze the CCTV in the process.

If you genuinely have done nothing wrong then you will not be in any trouble.

Please update.

HO87

As someone who spends his life investigating such allegations on the basis of what you've posted so far the first person I'd be interviewing is the manager.

When you say the "money" was it loose or in a bank bag, perhaps?
You also say that the money is visible on the CCTV. Do you mean that you can actually see the cash or is all you can see the bag it is supposed to be in? Although it might seem a stupid point just because you can see the bag the money is supposed to be in does not mean that you can see the money.

Sadly, businesses are not obliged to report incidents such as this regardless of what their employees may feel about the involvement of the police. In any event, my experience of police investigations into such cases is that the majority are inconclusive. The principal reason for this being that officers rarely have the time (and, sometimes the interest) to really get to grips with company procedures and paperwork and nor will they work at the speed that either you or the company would like. The matter could take weeks and the company do not, legally speaking, have that much time to be able to act "reasonably".

Whilst this will not be something you'll want to hear you need to bear in mind that an employer only needs to "reasonably believe" that a staff member has committed a gross misconduct in order to dismiss them (they do not need to be able to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" - the burden of proof required for a criminal court). The word "reasonably" being the crucial component. In order to arrive at a "reasonable" belief the employer would need to be able to demonstrate that they have conducted a thorough investigation (in accordance with any procedures that they have) and fully taken into account all avenues and this would include examining any information you, and your colleague, can offer.

At this stage I suggest that if you cannot find your copy of your contract of employment (you should have had this when you commenced working for Subway - in any event you should, by law, have been provided with a copy of this within 8 weeks of your starting work), and a "staff handbook" (most companies have these) ask for copies of these documents to be provided to you as soon as possible. Usually these documents will contain details of disciplinary and grievance procedures which it would be useful to read through to ensure that the company are sticking to their end of the bargain. If you find that they have breached their own procedures then you should bring that up at the next meeting.

Make sure that you are accompanied at any meeting and get your work place colleague (most companies will limit those who accompany you to colleagues or a union rep) to make detailed notes. If you want to record the meeting (using a dictaphone or MP3 player) then you should tell whoever is conducting the meeting that that is what you are going to do. This is useful from two perspectives. Firstly it makes the evidence that the recording contains completely admissible at an Employment Tribunal (heaven forbid that you end up there - but it is better to work on the basis that you will) and secondly it is likely to ensure that the meeting is properly conducted. I'd bet however that if you asked to record the meeting that they'd put the meeting off while they sought legal advice which gives you more time to prepare your case.

I would not advise covertly recording any meeting. You may well find that the recording is inadmissible and that includes any transacript you prepare of it. If you are going to record the meeting I'd also advise against using an MP3 player or indeed any other digital recorder, as it is far too easy for the other side to allege that the recording has been tampered with which might result in any recording being lost as evidence.

Finally, again something that you would not necessarily like to hear but in a case where cash has gone missing and (from the company's POV) it could only have been one of two people then its quite legal to sack both of them. Case law sadly supports this. It may be as well that you get your head together with your other colleague who has been suspended.

Btw - at this stage ACAS will not be of any great help apart from setting out what would be acceptable from a procedural point of view. I suggest you get yourself into the CAB pronto (if you haven't already been there) together with your contract of employment and staff handbook.

Best of luck.

Torby

no update yet?

ukjoel

I used to work at William Hill and due to the safe being tempremental we used to leave anything up to 10k in cash sitting in the microwave. Sounds ridiculous now but seemed normal at the time.