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Can i legally avoid a Speeding fine/points?

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Does anyone know how i may be able to avoid these points on my licence? I was caught by a transit van parked on a bridge in North Wales on Saturday.

Should signs be displayed? If so how far from the speed camera? This is probably the most obvious one.

I have been told that if i don't sign the form i was sent to confirm who the driver was it cannot be used in court? Bit risky i think.

Also someone said pay £1 over the fine amount.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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  • Meepster
    Meepster Posts: 5,955 Forumite
    How much were you over the limit?
    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

  • Nail_Lad
    Nail_Lad Posts: 158 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    oh dear. You've read too many myths. Get over to pepipoo they should sort you out.
    CHEAP doesn't mean ETHICAL
  • I would have thought if you didn't say you were driving they wouldn't just let it go, they'll probably prosecute the car owner because its your responsibility to inform them if it wasn't you.
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  • Meepster
    Meepster Posts: 5,955 Forumite
    I was thinking more Urban Legends....
    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

  • louismcd
    louismcd Posts: 38 Forumite
    mwilletts wrote: »
    How much were you over the limit?

    I was only doing 74mph in a 60
  • louismcd
    louismcd Posts: 38 Forumite
    Nail_Lad wrote: »
    oh dear. You've read too many myths. Get over to pepipoo they should sort you out.

    Pepipoo? Never heard that one.
  • BoneHead
    BoneHead Posts: 514 Forumite
    louismcd wrote: »
    I was only doing 74mph in a 60

    Only????

    14mph over the speed limit. Instead of looking for loopholes, just admit it. Pay the fine. Get the points and learn.
  • lucid2008
    lucid2008 Posts: 159 Forumite
    Only 74mph in a 60mph ? :) Getting caught by the notorious north wales police is not very good either.Also realise they should have a photo of the driver when they took the speed.
  • Enfieldian
    Enfieldian Posts: 2,893 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Have you received the Notice of Intended Prosecution yet, or are you just worried about the van.

    Chances are if your speedo said 74, you were probably doing nearer to 68.

    The advice about not signing the form or paying an extra pound on top of the fine is total rubbish.

    I have avoided points but I don't think that the method I used is exactly "legal"
  • esuhl
    esuhl Posts: 9,409 Forumite
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    I would have thought if you didn't say you were driving they wouldn't just let it go, they'll probably prosecute the car owner because its your responsibility to inform them if it wasn't you.

    Strangely, this is exactly what they do. I say strangely because in general you are not required to incriminate yourself in other aspects of law.

    I believe a couple tried it a few years ago - each denying that they were the driver, and arguing that they cannot be forced to reveal the driver's identity because it would mean self-incrimination. It looked like they had a decent chance of winning... till they lost!
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