Going vegan......old style?!

DadOfTwo_4

tru wrote: »

Hi all, can I jump in with a question about eggs? Why don't vegans eat them?

It's a chicken fetus. In fact free range eggs are more likely to be fertile and have the ability to become a chicken.

tru

lucym wrote: »

Producing free range eggs still requires having fertile eggs - some of which will hatch into male chicks, which are then slaughtered.

Aaaaaaaah yes, didn't think of that. I was just thinking of the chicken and unfertilised egg, forgot about the unwanted cockerels along the way.

DadOfTwo wrote: »

It's a chicken fetus. In fact free range eggs are more likely to be fertile and have the ability to become a chicken.

An egg isn't a fetus til it's fertilised :think:

No fertility here - I don't have a cockerel

DadOfTwo_4

tru wrote: »

An egg isn't a fetus til it's fertilised :think:

No fertility here - I don't have a cockerel

Sorry, I meant to say it is chicken menstruation, that had the potential to become a chicken, and free range chicken eggs are more likely to be a fetus.

tru

Are you trying to put me off my eggs? :rotfl:

It won't work, lol.

Justamum

Does anybody know of a vegan bar of soap? Most of the ones in the shops seem to have tallow in them. At the moment I'm using Superdrug liquid soap, but I'm sure that it's wrecking my hands, they're in a right state.

I do intend to start making my own. Soon(ish!) when I have got some ingredients.

Justamum

tru wrote: »

Are you trying to put me off my eggs? :rotfl:

It won't work, lol.

Chicken periods :eek::D

Many years ago I opened on egg and it was completely red inside.:eek: A few weeks ago I was cracking some eggs for my DH and one of them had quite a bit of blood in it. My DD1 saw it and hasn't eaten eggs since! Just need to work on the cheese now

Murrell

Justamum wrote: »

Does anybody know of a vegan bar of soap? Most of the ones in the shops seem to have tallow in them. At the moment I'm using Superdrug liquid soap, but I'm sure that it's wrecking my hands, they're in a right state.

I do intend to start making my own. Soon(ish!) when I have got some ingredients.

Superdrugs do a bar called pure thats vegan. Tesco, sainsburys and morrisons (avoco pure) have a pure vegetable soap bar also. Health food shops also usually stock olive oil based bars and fragranced vegetable bars.

For info to anyone, the astonish range is vegan including the milk and honey one and is usually in the pound type shops.

Sandra
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Money_maker

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2411981

This thread on the low spend board is for a sample of a black soap which the website claims is suitable for vegans.

HTH

NualaBuala

Re the eggs: it's not true that eggs are all fertilised. Have a read of the chicken-keeping thread for more info. They may be but hens will lay whether they are fertilised or not.

There are ethical problems with commercially produced eggs though; hens are debeaked and male chicks are killed. But some people keep hens as "pets", often rescued from battery farms and will keep and care for them till the end of their days regardless of whether they produce eggs or not. I'd have thought eating any eggs these produce is ok but that's just my personal opinion.

Justamum

NualaBuala wrote: »

Re the eggs: it's not true that eggs are all fertilised. Have a read of the chicken-keeping thread for more info. They may be but hens will lay whether they are fertilised or not.

There are ethical problems with commercially produced eggs though; hens are debeaked and male chicks are killed. But some people keep hens as "pets", often rescued from battery farms and will keep and care for them till the end of their days regardless of whether they produce eggs or not. I'd have thought eating any eggs these produce is ok but that's just my personal opinion.

There was an article in the last but one edition of The Vegan magazine written by a woman who had some rescue hens, and she decided to eat the eggs they produce. Someone wrote a letter in the last edition saying how upset they were about it (which I thought was an over-the-top reaction).

Tbh I thought the original article was quite thought-provoking. Personally I wouldn't fancy eating chicken menstruation, but as the hens were rescued and were laying eggs as a normal function (and as long as she didn't have a cockerel to fertilise them) I don't really see that there is anything wrong with the first woman eating them and still calling herself a vegan - she's not exploiting or hurting the hens, which is, for me, the reason for being vegan.