Mondeo TDCi Dual Flywheel nonsense

woody5000

I have a 2008 Mondeo TDCi 2.0
The dual mass flywheel gave out without any warning while I was travelling on a dual carriageway with cruise control at 70mph. It cost £1200 to fix the problem. After fixing the flywheel the steering is now not centering correctly. Fords are not what they used to be!

So to answer the question, no there is NO warning at all.

rca779 wrote: »

I am looking at getting a New (ish) Mondeo, probably on an 05/55 plate. I am looking at the 2.0, 130 bhp model, with < 50k miles.

I have read numerous posts about these cars having problems with the flywheel(s?) and that it can cost up to £1,000 to fix.

So my question is what do I need to look out for?

If I chose an automatic (I've seen a nice one I like), would could I still be exposed to similar problems?

Is there anything else I need to look out for?

forgotmyname

Puzzled how a flywheel packed up when your not using it?

They start to rattle or unble long before they give up. Ususally they kill the starter motor 1st.

lawnmowerman_2

forgotmyname wrote: »

Puzzled how a flywheel packed up when your not using it?

They start to rattle or unble long before they give up. Ususally they kill the starter motor 1st.

Mine didn't. And, with respect, you definately ARE using your flywheel travelling at 70mph...

cyclonebri1

woody5000 wrote: »

I have a 2008 Mondeo TDCi 2.0
The dual mass flywheel gave out without any warning while I was travelling on a dual carriageway with cruise control at 70mph. It cost £1200 to fix the problem. After fixing the flywheel the steering is now not centering correctly. Fords are not what they used to be!

So to answer the question, no there is NO warning at all.

You need to get that looked into by way of a steering geometry check. It's not that the steering is off centre that is the cause for concern.

I'm not 100% familiar with the latter Mondeos but if they are anthing like other similar cars the suspension and subframes will have been removed whilst doing the flywheel and if these aren't correctly reset and realigned, then camber and castor angles etc can be affected :(

Road_Hog

MKIIIs are notorious for the flywheel problem, iirc it is more so on the diesel.

I recommend the Mondeo forum now called talk ford. Plenty of discussion there on it.

About half way down the page in has the Mondeo section, which is split into the MK1/MK2, MK3 and MK4. Make sure you go to the right section.

http://www.talkford.com/

forgotmyname

Well yes the flywheel is engaged but its not really doing any work, 99.9999% of the work it does
is when you take up the drive and when changing gear.

Same as a clutch plate really, When not changing gear or pulling away you dont need to use the clutch.

It could outlast the engine if you drove 24/7 around a circuit at a constant speed.

smjxm09

No warranties will cover wear and tear items...

Ford's own 4th and 5th year extended warranty does. Well up to 70,000 miles that is.

harveybobbles

Ford will replace the DMF for free under the warrantee if it fails, ie shatters etc.

But if they decided after taking the DMF out that there is nothing wrong with it, then they will charge you the labour even though its under warranty.

cyclonebri1

forgotmyname wrote: »

Well yes the flywheel is engaged but its not really doing any work, 99.9999% of the work it does etc

I'm sorry but you are are wrong as it is possible to be.
The only time the flywheel has minimum load through it is when the car is cruising, ie, niether accelarating or decelarating.

Decelaration is exactly the opposite effect as accelarating but has gravity and kinetic energy working against it rather than engine power working for it.

And even when the engine is "cruising" the flywheel has all the load passed through it as it is working to overcome resistance. Go figure again. ;)

forgotmyname

So im right then. I said it could outlast the engine if driven at a contant speed.

And the accelerating, deaccelerating wear would be the .0001 %

Neglible wear compared to the movement when taking up drive or changing gear whilst the car on boost.