Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

pink_phantom

Lone Ranger, I get what you are saying and it is very commendable that you have these ideals and that you live by them yourself. But the fact is that many people do not have this way of life whether by choice or circumstances of which they have no control over.

We would all love to be happily married for years with parents that dote on their kids and love triumps over all, but for many people this does not and will not ever happen. You need to accept that and be grateful that you have a happy life and just try and be a teeny bit more sympathetic to those whose circumstances are beyond their control and those that work hard and still suffer, because believe me, they do exist.

PS. As previously stated, costs have risen very sharply the last few years and tax credits have not kept up.

I think I can quite honestly say that divorce rates haven't droped because of the CSA because they would make you pay even if you hadn't divorced. If they have dropped it is because there are less people getting married.

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

no sorry divorce rates have dropped becouse people have looked at the financial implications if they divorce sad i know but if it keeps people together and helps them see how stupid they are being if it helps one marrige then its a good thing , i do have sympathy for people going through divorce the kids the wife the husband , the vile things they say and do to each other and then regret after , ive worked at our marrige it isnt perfect by no means but ive done my best if i should divorce i will pay my way and no doubt suffer at the hands of the csa etc but i must pay what i must i wouldnt start a new family, i know there are people less fortunate and am aware lifes hard as ive said i had a rough time for 4 or so years through debt i fought my way through it people were vile and nasty but they didnt know me so i plodded on and bore them no real mallice life is hard some times and some times its good and mostly its good lets be honest

pink_phantom

It wont keep people together, they will just separate or be miserable in an unhappy marriage. I think it's great that you have such a committed view of marriage (I wish my OH did), but many men and women view marriage in a completely different light.

PS. I'm going to stop on this subject now because it isn't moneysaving and we will get told off.

calleyw

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

ok i cant be bothered to do paragraghs full stops etc etc im in a chat forum tapping a computor im not getting paid for it so im not realy bothered to be honest .absent parents men or women should pay maintenence ,why are they having the children for half the time ? it must be there choice so why give a reduction ? the law states what they pay theres no excuses not to pay it reflects what they earn if they choose to start another family then thats there choice what do they want people to pay for there kids

If you want people to read what you write and take it seriously (which I don't by the way) then you you might want to think about paragraphs. Comes across as sloppy and incoherent rantings.

I still love to know what planet you are on.

What the hell are you on about here "Why are they having the children for half the time ? it must be there choice so why give a reduction ? "

With that attitude you can see why a lot of absent fathers don't bother with there children at all and drop out the system. As no matter what you do you are paying twice over. Once to pay the bills on a house big enough to have the children to stay, clothes and food bills etc. And you still have the pleasure of paying it all over again when they are at there mothers. Sorry but the Mother has only half the bills as you are footing the other half. So only fair you get a reduction. Which you sort of do to some extent with the CSA.

So what you are saying is that fathers should not have access to there children and have them to stay with them.

When the CSA started there some men who where being left with 1p after csa had there cut. My husband had to change jobs because after everything had been paid out he had £40 a month left after all bills. So like the OP why he felt like what is the point in working his guts out to only see £40 at the end of month. And before you say it we have very low out goings than most people.

Lucky you that have such a high paid job. Not everyone is able to do that even with re-training and some of us don't get tax credits actually we don't get any help at all. Unlike most of the parents with care.

But then a lot of people who hold such views and high values have never had to deal with such issues.

Like the old saying goes those that live glass houses should not throw stones.

And I also take offence at my stepchildren being called baggage.

And there is no relationship between the CSA and divorce. As pink_phantom said the CSA don't care if you are married or not. So again you seem to have little grasp of what is going on in the outside in the real world.

Yours


Calley

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

ok you have your kids week ends only, why break weekly routine think of there education etc etc you have 2 kids and earn 15k what do you think you should pay?

ben500

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

ok you have your kids week ends only, why break weekly routine think of there education etc etc you have 2 kids and earn 15k what do you think you should pay?

Your on some kind of acid trip

Annie34

My husband and are having problems with the CSA.He has been married twice before and i once. He has tree kids and i have two.Csa wont take into account his two kids who live in Germany, who he pays maintenance for and therefore are not giving out the correct calculation for his other child.They have not recalculated the fact that we have married and two children live with him.Out of 5 children only one is being taken into account and therefore his maintenance payments in total are high, to the point where we cant manage properly.Any thoughts

hobo28

Hi Annie. You might get more results if you posted in the families forum rather than here.

However, from what I understand the rules have been interpreted correctly. Under the new rules, the CSA do not take into account new families. I didn't know about kids who live abroad though.

Does he see the child who the CSA is trying to get maintenance for? The only thing I can think of is has he claimed a reduction for the nights he/she stays over?

Annie34

He does see him, but only when he can.As his job and distance are the prblem

Annie34

so why does the csa not take into account my husbands 2 kids from his first marriage,who live in Germany and he pays maintenance for, when calculating the money to be paid for his other child in his second marriage. Plus he is now with me and two kids are living in the house