Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

simple when you get divorced the woman you take up with is aware you may have children from your first marrige ,she should know they come first if she has not got any children then she should of thought of that before taking up with some one who is divorced, all fathers must pay there way even if it makes them skint if the amount is judged to be correct by the csa then that is the law abide by it, will the second family suffer? of course it will ,will the new kids of that new family suffer? yes they will ,who do you blame the two people who had children when they could not afford it, they know the husband has to pay for other kids and it will prove costly but they just set up house and expect to bung the ex wife 50 quid for 2 kids a week and hope its enough well tough it aint pay your way you made your bed lie on it your happiness etc comes 2nd

pink_phantom

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

why do divorced people go on to remarry and have another child when they still have to pay for the first ?for 18 years when they remarry they and the new woman should be aware children from the first marrige come first

You make kids sound like a bank loan that has to be paid off. Kids are a lifelong committment, not just for 18 years and all children are equal, not just the kids from the first marriage. They should all be treated fairly and sadly this isn't done. I seems that fathers that do pay up to the CSA are treated very unfairly and absent fathers or fathers that avoid them get away with it for years. Yet another example of doing the right thing only to be penalised.

claysam

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

so your 50quid worse off you now have a job i take it get 2 do over time , and according to the poster i was replying to you have a doleite has a few cars sell them you must have saved a fortune with all the handouts you get on benefits of course your not worse off and niether when on benefits were you getting loads and you mention rent she mentioned mortgage gets paid to hey i may well jack my job in let them pay my mortgage give me a few cars and loads of spendies first thing tuesday im off down the social behave yourself no one is better of on the social unless there happy with scraps

How dare you comment on a situation that you know nothing about.

I DO NOT have a car as i cannot afford to run one. I CANNOT do overtime as I have 3 children that i am solely responsible for, i am also attending college so fit in work around that also.

You state on one hand that I have cars to sell on, and yet state that state benefit give nothing but scraps. Perhaps if you stop contridicting yourself, come off that moral highground that you have placed yourself upon and face facts, then you can see that there are plenty of people out there that are living the high life on these so called scrap benefits.

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

claysam wrote:

How dare you comment on a situation that you know nothing about.

I DO NOT have a car as i cannot afford to run one. I CANNOT do overtime as I have 3 children that i am solely responsible for, i am also attending college so fit in work around that also.

You state on one hand that I have cars to sell on, and yet state that state benefit give nothing but scraps. Perhaps if you stop contridicting yourself, come off that moral highground that you have placed yourself upon and face facts, then you can see that there are plenty of people out there that are living the high life on these so called scrap benefits.

chill out i said according to the original poster she stated the people on benefits get loads of money she knows some who have new cars double glazing new drive ways etc etc and get there mortgages paid to boot ,please read all the thread

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

as for well off people on the benefit system behave

pink_phantom

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

chill out i said according to the original poster she stated the people on benefits get loads of money she knows some who have new cars double glazing new drive ways etc etc and get there mortgages paid to boot ,please read all the thread

I meant that mortgages and rent swallow peoples income in general and that any housing benefit should taken into consideration when working out income. And I'm not the OP.

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

pink_phantom wrote:

I meant that mortgages and rent swallow peoples income in general and that any housing benefit should taken into consideration when working out income. And I'm not the OP.

POINT TAKEN BUT HOUSING BENEFIT DOES NOT PAY YOUR MORTGAGE IF YOU DONT GET OF YOUR BUTT QUICK YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR HOUSE,AND I STILL DONT BELIEVE PEOPLE ON BENEFITS ARE BETTER OFF UNLESS THERE COMMITING FRAUD

skystar

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

why do divorced people go on to remarry and have another child when they still have to pay for the first ?for 18 years when they remarry they and the new woman should be aware children from the first marrige come first

So is the mother allowed to remarry and have more kids or is it just the father thats to put his life on hold?!?

To all posters - please remember there are absent mothers as well.

We are in the situation where my stepson has seen his mother once since January 2003 - no phonecalls, birthday cards, nothing since then.

calleyw

skystar wrote:

So is the mother allowed to remarry and have more kids or is it just the father thats to put his life on hold?!?

To all posters - please remember there are absent mothers as well.

We are in the situation where my stepson has seen his mother once since January 2003 - no phonecalls, birthday cards, nothing since then.

Of course the mothers are little angels that are allowed to stay in the family home and get benefits if they don't work and get extra help with tax credits and get CSA money and then moans that the father of their children never has them to stay let alone the fact that can hardly afford to rent any where. So can hardly afford to keep his heads above water but that is not important. (Note: mostly tongue in cheek)

Aren't you lucky lone ranger that you managed to stay married for X amount of years. Better be careful it is long way to fall from your pedestal. And must be so hard being so perfect.

Prehaps you ought to live in the real world. Like some us have to. Which means dealing with b!tchy ex-wives who seem to think that my income should be hers. And everything we do, even though we go without a lot to afford what we have gets looked at when it is none of her damn business.

You also seem to have some fantasy idea that it is all down to the men that the relationships/marriages have broken down. How about coping with your wife sleeping with other men behind your back. I am sure that you would stay when they also make life impossible for you by hurling abuse and threatening you by throwing saucepans at your head. And yes this was my husband and the verbal abuse and throwing saucepans came from his now ex wife.

My husband did not want to leave his children but their mother made it impossble for him to live in the same house. And he could not take the children as he had no where to take them. But we will gloss over the fact that she is always pleading poverty but has 4 children by 3 different fathers:rolleyes:

You also seem to neglect to take in the fact that two people made a child not just one so they are both finanically reposnsible for the child. So if the CSA say it costs £120 a week to keep a child that is £120 between the two of you. Not just £120 from the absent parent.

So please get your facts straight before you choose to tar all men with the same brush. As my husband pays and always had done. To the point of where it has nearly financially ruined us. But why should that matter he is only an absent parent who is a waste of space. And because of that he is not entitled to have a life ever.

Hey ho I smell trolls;)


Yours


Calley

ben500

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote:

simple when you get divorced the woman you take up with is aware you may have children from your first marrige ,she should know they come first if she has not got any children then she should of thought of that before taking up with some one who is divorced, all fathers must pay there way even if it makes them skint if the amount is judged to be correct by the csa then that is the law abide by it, will the second family suffer? of course it will ,will the new kids of that new family suffer? yes they will ,who do you blame the two people who had children when they could not afford it, they know the husband has to pay for other kids and it will prove costly but they just set up house and expect to bung the ex wife 50 quid for 2 kids a week and hope its enough well tough it aint pay your way you made your bed lie on it your happiness etc comes 2nd

Don't tell me you never saw your father as a child and all you can remember is him beating you round the head with a clog twice a day once for breakfast and once for supper.

Is there a monty python sketch living in your head or something?