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  • hjb123
    hjb123 Posts: 32,002 Forumite
    I think you should just go to the 'ceremony', its one day, and at the end of the day you will have pleased alot of people by doing so.

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  • Whats the point of bringing religon/politics into it???? Either go, or dont!! Your choice.

    Personally, I dont have problems with this at all and have a close family member who's in a gay relationship. It doesnt mean I love her any less. We dont always like peoples choices but if we care for them, well then we tolerate them.

    If your not homophobic-why do you not want to go? I dont fully understand what your trying to say, but all I can see is quite alot of contradiction in your posting. Maybe Im reading it wrong. You will have to live with whatever decision you choose.

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  • Davidboy
    Davidboy Posts: 922 Forumite
    Trademark - Face it you are homophobic.

    Whats wrong with same sex parents? Is the child is loved and cared for. You mean to say ALL hetro parents are good???

    Bonnie Christians are hypocrits, your God made all equal, except when you interpret things your own way. If you are CoE, then what eligion are you, cos it was formed by Henry VIII to marry one of his bits on the side? I'm so glad I am athiest.

    Trademark - it is a matter of your concience, it seems to me there is a lot of bad feeling in your family. Up to you mate but do not condemn your sil for being gay.

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  • elaine373
    elaine373 Posts: 1,427 Forumite
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    Davidboy wrote:
    Trademark - Face it you are homophobic.

    Whats wrong with same sex parents? Is the child is loved and cared for. You mean to say ALL hetro parents are good???

    Bonnie Christians are hypocrits, your God made all equal, except when you interpret things your own way. If you are CoE, then what eligion are you, cos it was formed by Henry VIII to marry one of his bits on the side? I'm so glad I am athiest.

    Trademark - it is a matter of your concience, it seems to me there is a lot of bad feeling in your family. Up to you mate but do not condemn your sil for being gay.

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    Davidboy,
    Does this make you christianphobic??
    Why does the person against homosexuality get called homophobic?
    isnt phobic/phobias a fear?, not an objection.
    Personally trademark i would do what makes your wife happy, this isnt worth rocking your relationship.
    “Love yourself first and everything else falls into line. Your really have to love yourself to get anything done in this world.” Lucille Ball.
  • Halaku
    Halaku Posts: 231 Forumite
    I think everyone should stop bashing OP with the homophobe stick. From what he's posted so far, it seems a major reason why he doesn't want to attend her wedding is because he doesn't see eye to eye with her. I'm sure if they got on and were best of friends, he wouldn't find it to be such an issue.

    That being said, I still think you should go. Your family will be there, and like the other poster said, free food. I've never known a catholic to turn down free food :p:p

    Anyways, I can't see why gay people would want to marry. Its such a pointless and outdated idea, we should all be going down the 'free love' path.
  • crutches
    crutches Posts: 1,065 Forumite
    go for your wife's sake.and to show that you can rise above the discrimination shown to you by your silly SIL.

    Perhaps her new legal status will make her a nicer more secure person?Wish her well even if only for one day.Coming out is a difficult process,it probably wasn't you she was mad at at all just society.And you were proving how heterosexual her sister was!

    Most religions preach understanding and tolerance to ALL.If you can't do that then "Hate the Sin,LOVE the Sinner"?!And think of your wife.Dont be the cause of a family breach.Show your love for her and support her if things are a little tense.Bite yr tongue and be a real man who puts his family first .
    Every day above ground is a good one ;)
  • elaine373
    elaine373 Posts: 1,427 Forumite
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    Hate the Sin,LOVE the Sinner"?!And think of your wife.Dont be the cause of a family breach.Show your love for her and support her if things are a little tense.Bite yr tongue and be a real man who puts his family first .

    I agree.
    “Love yourself first and everything else falls into line. Your really have to love yourself to get anything done in this world.” Lucille Ball.
  • SnowyOwl_2
    SnowyOwl_2 Posts: 5,257 Forumite
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    Oh just go! She was big enough to invite you - be a grown up, say thank you for the invite and that you accept. This is your sil and her partner's special day, it's about them, not about you! They want family there, why spoil it? She didn't turn up to your wedding so you know what it feels like to be on the receiving end. You can still have your opinions, you can still disagree, but you can be adult, keep your opinions to yourself for a day, smile and say "congratulations I am glad you are both happy". They are going to do it with or without you. I'd agree with the others who say that you'd upset more people by not going - what is the point in creating an argument or ill-feeling?
  • trademark wrote:
    thanks for the understanding one sided view everyone ... should have expected it i suppose ..... my understanding of the current situation however runs with more depth ....firstly before my wifes sister came out ... she would barely accept me into the family ... in fact she was a bloody awful person to everyone ... she didnt attend our marriage for instance

    there are some bloody awful parents out there ... doing a terrible job with there children and a same sex family could well do better im sure ... loving and caring for their adopted children .... they could also ruin them with one sided views of the hate they feel for a sometimes unfair anti gay society .

    i wouldnt want to enter that childs school playground myself ... let alone put a child with gay parents there .

    i also look at the current balance within our society and i cant see how even a small % of the current population entering into a same sex partnership can be substained as their demand on the pension system alone following a partners death would bring the country to its knees ....

    i do not even have to mention relegions view of these arrangements ..... or do i .... the church is dead set against this .... does this matter ? well we are at war constantly on this planet and its always due to relegion in some form ..... so i would say it is important to some ...

    many couples entering into a civil joining do so for love and commitment ...but others are just there because they demand equality and the rights to their partners pension .
    and as for being prejuidiced , some of the gay people i know are the most prejuidiced people i have ever met .



    how can you say that you understand all of the views and beliefs of every gay person ever coz you may know a few?!

    i cant stand people like you

    you remind me of the people who talk about my race like "yeah very romantic but theyd better not park their caravans anywhere near me"

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  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    Can I just stick a perspective in from an older generation.

    What is being talked about here is 'registering a civil partnership', something which is only open to same-sex couples to do. It's not open to different-sex couples - they are given the choice either to marry (whether a civil or religious ceremony) or not to marry, and in the latter case they don't have the advantages of either a marriage or a registered civil partnership. English law has no such thing as 'marriage by habit and repute' or 'common-law'.

    But I agree with the poster who said 'I wish people would stop calling it a marriage'. I can't see how a same-sex partnership can be a marriage. If that makes me 'homophobic' then so be it.

    However, if I was given this kind of an invitation I would go. I would turn up dressed smartly, wish the couple a lot of luck, behave politely for the short time necessary, and that would be that. I've been to a lot of occasions that were bitter-sweet to say the least. One where we were only invited to the evening do because 'it might upset people' at the earlier ceremony to have to meet us. I've been to a wedding party where I had to meet my husband's first ex. A pleasant smile and good manners can get you through most difficult occasions.

    I would be like Snowy Owl above.

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