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  • tcr_3
    tcr_3 Posts: 580 Forumite
    Hi when my partner went for the position she was asked to introduce herself she explained that she was in management position etc etc and one of the interviewers asked how old she was because she looked quite young (WHICH IN DWP RECRUITMENT PRINCIPLES THAT IS A NO NO) my partner has just turned 22 also at the end of the interview my partner asked "would the successful candidate be provided training ?" now my partner is pregnant and is showing, one of the panel members replied " the DM post is a specialist post and would require 14 weeks training and mentoring to which the candidate has to attend full time hours to complete this," he then looked my partners stomach and asked sarcastically " would this be a problem ?"

    obviously my partner said no, but she was made to feel very uncomfortable, there were other remarks during the whole interview,

    i also went for this interview and i was unsuccessful so im confused does this mean i should not be an EO ? or does mean that there recruitment is total shambles

    by the way i am on a waiting list for a band D HEO which is a grade higher and i am 22 also but the amount obstacles that you can come across is horrendous so much for "EQUAL OPPERTUNITIES!" my A**E

    An HEO at 22 y/o ?

    Can't fault you for ambition, but they'll be looking for a candidate with considerable managerial experience and at 22 y/o I wonder if you have that ? You'd be in charge of, let's see ... a whole Job Centre ? Or 50-100 staff in a Benefit Delivery Centre ? It's a job with considerable responsibility, I've never yet seen a candidate so young being appointed to that grade.

    As to looking askance at a pregnant interview candidate, that's definitely a no-no.
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  • honda2006
    honda2006 Posts: 16 Forumite
    tcr wrote: »
    Congratulations on your appointment, mbcomper, hope things go well for you.

    From my Job Centre the outlook is grim. Our fixed termers are assuming their contracts won't be extended, they're now applying for other jobs, three have resigned with a fourth expected to hand in their resignation next week.

    That only leaves us with one of the fixed term staff we took on last September.

    The loss of those staff has been nothing short of disastrous. They were all employed as signing clerks, we've now only got two permanent clerks plus the two fixed termers. And they're having to come in before 8am to get the boxes into order and are staying on til past 6pm to ensure the evidence has been put through, plus have to "take the grief" from signers who are having to wait longer than usual to sign on.

    Management are desperate for new staff, but the decision on the 2010/2011 headcount has been delayed until after the general election. They don't expect to know how many staff we should have for the current financial year until late May at the earliest.

    It's all pretty grim.

    Many of the FTA'S at my office have been moved to a section called Backing Young Britain, the majority of their contracts end this summer.
  • NO WAY WOULD I BE A ADVISER SERVICES MANAGER OR JOBCENTRE MANAGER (BOTH HEO ROLES)

    i have gone for the position for a security adviser manager basically making sure that security procedures are adhered to etc etc but reading all these posts im thinking twice about my career in the DWP

    tcr wrote: »
    An HEO at 22 y/o ?

    Can't fault you for ambition, but they'll be looking for a candidate with considerable managerial experience and at 22 y/o I wonder if you have that ? You'd be in charge of, let's see ... a whole Job Centre ? Or 50-100 staff in a Benefit Delivery Centre ? It's a job with considerable responsibility, I've never yet seen a candidate so young being appointed to that grade.

    As to looking askance at a pregnant interview candidate, that's definitely a no-no.
  • tsimehC
    tsimehC Posts: 763 Forumite
    500 Posts
    tcr wrote: »
    An HEO at 22 y/o ?

    Can't fault you for ambition, but they'll be looking for a candidate with considerable managerial experience and at 22 y/o I wonder if you have that ? You'd be in charge of, let's see ... a whole Job Centre ? Or 50-100 staff in a Benefit Delivery Centre ? It's a job with considerable responsibility, I've never yet seen a candidate so young being appointed to that grade.

    As to looking askance at a pregnant interview candidate, that's definitely a no-no.

    We have a 22-year old HEO in our office believe it or not and that post was competed against more experienced members of staff. You could argue there were other sorts of indirect discrimination but age wasn't one of them.
  • tcr_3
    tcr_3 Posts: 580 Forumite
    I've worked for DHSS/DSS/DWP for more than 22 years, I'd have severe problems taking such a young manager seriously, as would many colleagues.

    But, hey, new ideas, new ways of doing things etc etc. Perhaps it's us oldsters who are the problem.
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  • i dont blame the older lot i blame the system

    anyone read the paper today ? david cameron wants to sell the JCP !! bad news after the other :mad:
    tcr wrote: »
    I've worked for DHSS/DSS/DWP for more than 22 years, I'd have severe problems taking such a young manager seriously, as would many colleagues.

    But, hey, new ideas, new ways of doing things etc etc. Perhaps it's us oldsters who are the problem.
  • Hi when my partner went for the position she was asked to introduce herself she explained that she was in management position etc etc and one of the interviewers asked how old she was because she looked quite young (WHICH IN DWP RECRUITMENT PRINCIPLES THAT IS A NO NO) my partner has just turned 22 also at the end of the interview my partner asked "would the successful candidate be provided training ?" now my partner is pregnant and is showing, one of the panel members replied " the DM post is a specialist post and would require 14 weeks training and mentoring to which the candidate has to attend full time hours to complete this," he then looked my partners stomach and asked sarcastically " would this be a problem ?"

    obviously my partner said no, but she was made to feel very uncomfortable, there were other remarks during the whole interview,

    i also went for this interview and i was unsuccessful so im confused does this mean i should not be an EO ? or does mean that there recruitment is total shambles

    by the way i am on a waiting list for a band D HEO which is a grade higher and i am 22 also but the amount obstacles that you can come across is horrendous so much for "EQUAL OPPERTUNITIES!" my A**E

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  • Bluee
    Bluee Posts: 1 Newbie
    I don't know if anyone can help or it has already been covered previously but I applied for a permanent position with the DWP, the advert clearly stated it was permanent and once i started on the first day I was told it was a fixed term contract.

    According to the district office the post I applied for was permanent but they only took on 70 staff as permanent and the rest on a FTA contract, now surely they should've changed the advertisement.

    I've spoken to the union and the union hasn't really been much help really, the union rep said I should've more or less told dwp to stuff there job on the first day as I didn't do this I had accepted the offer off a FTA!!

    Now surely there must be another solution to this, i also wanted to know if anyone else is having this problem?

    Just to also mention according to union everyone should've recieved an offer letter to which I didn't recieve one but just a phone call, now the offer letter supposedly stated it was a FTA to which I wasn't even aware until the first day off work!
  • When i applied to DWP i was told it was an 18month FTA but when i started in Nov 09 i was then told it was only a 12month term, i did question it & they were going to talk to HR but even to this date they still have not done anything. I worked there in Aug 08 until July 09 which was when my contract expired, i then had to go through the process of interviews etc which was a nightmare. I applied to BDC with which i got the job but was put on the waiting list 1yr down the line i haven't heard anything and i guess i'm not going to either. What annoys me is that they train you up, send you out on courses etc then they get rid of you so far down the line. We even have people in our office that are only on a 6 month FTA.
  • tsimehC
    tsimehC Posts: 763 Forumite
    500 Posts
    @Bluee: This happened to me and another colleague of mine. I couldn't do anything about it and at that time I was just glad I had the job (actually I'm glad it's fixed term now).
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