Is CSA1 an exact science? (if so where can I get a copy of the formula) -merged-

kelloggs36

You cannot share the house with the landlord, correct - that makes you a non-dependant.

mothballed

...and the landlord loses his entitlement to charge rent for the beneficial use of his property and its resources. Interesting.

mothballed

Sensemaya wrote: »

What I cannot understand, mothballed, is your partner is on a very good wage (

.....get your partner to pay off the arrears instead of paying a lawyer's fees and it's all over with.

I think you are missing the point.

My girlfriends earnings are irrelevant, she has paid her taxes. This is what really narks me off with this attitude. Why should we cave in to unlawful CSA demands? unlawful because the CSA is claiming that my landlord (and without a shred of evidence to back this up) lives in my house which I rent a bedsit from and share with two others. The CSA has assessed me for working 75 hours a week and I only work 40 resulting in a DEO leaving me with a nett income of £23 per £100 earned. With a basic of £239 a week its not rocket science when JSA pays £60.50 plus my rent is paid, council tax, med prescriptions, Legal aid, EX160's this & that is paid. The CSA didnt even allow me any tax credits in keeping with other parents.

Why pay these arrears when they are obviously unlawful?

Our mission is to have the CSA put things right and claim any redress that is lawfully due. While on JSA the CSA can take all the time it wants.

mothballed

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I would be very careful - what are the reasons you are packing in your job? CSA may well decide that you deprived yourself of the income.

On a weekly take home pay of less than £56 a week to live on I could not afford £39.99 for a new pair of shoes for work. Officially my employer fired me for failure to wear the correct uniform on duty. My employer cant interstand what the CSA is playing at, but also laid blame on me for letting it continue for so long. I just assumed all NRP's went through hardship. I couldnt believe the CSA would be so destructive to the point of screwing a mans life and his career in this way. It doest benefit the taxpayer, my children, me or anyone.

Accusing me of depriving myself of income is a non-starter because my income increases to £60.50 a week when JSA starts.

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

On a weekly take home pay of less than £56 a week to live on I could not afford £39.99 for a new pair of shoes for work. Officially my employer fired me for failure to wear the correct uniform on duty.

That's your reason for being sacked?! I will be interested to see how the DWP deal with that particulary as you could have applied for a crisis loan from the DWP for exactly that kind of thing. And I'm sorry, but I fail to see why a woman who is carrying your child and you have a partnership with and earns a very decent wage would let her boyfriend not be able to afford a pair of shoes - perhaps you could have asked them as a gift.

And yet again...your income WILL NOT increase to £60.50 when (if?) you manage to claim JSA. Your £7 CSA will be deducted from that.

You seem hellbent on some kind of judicial crusade. Have you contacted the CSA to put a formal appeal in? Have you contacted your MP?

However if what Kelloggs is saying is correct and you can't live in the same address as your landlord then you will need to argue about the assessment done when you were working more hours. I seriously can't get my head round the fact that they won't do a reassessment.....but if you got your MP involved then this would get things moving and best of all - it's free

mothballed

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

That's your reason for being sacked?! I will be interested to see how the DWP deal with that particulary as you could have applied for a crisis loan from the DWP for exactly that kind of thing.

That has to be the most irresponsble and short-sighted comment ive seen on this forum. Borrowing my way out of this is what i have been doing for the last 18 months and its about to declare me bankrupt in a few weeks. Taking out yet more loans which I have no prospect of repaying is plain stupidity. It goes against all other advice including a solicitor.

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

And I'm sorry, but I fail to see why a woman who is carrying your child and you have a partnership with and earns a very decent wage would let her boyfriend not be able to afford a pair of shoes - perhaps you could have asked them as a gift.

That is precisely what I have been doing for the last 18 months. I just cant keep going cap-in-hand any more. She is a taxpayer and there is no reason why she should subsidise the CSA for its mistakes.

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

And yet again...your income WILL NOT increase to £60.50 when (if?) you manage to claim JSA. Your £7 CSA will be deducted from that.

Your are right, the PWC gets £7 a week. You are wrong because I still get £60.50 a week because its the minimum income the law says I have to live on. It cannot be deducted.

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

You seem hellbent on some kind of judicial crusade. Have you contacted the CSA to put a formal appeal in?

letter went off asking for it a few days ago, going with kellogs on that.

what is a judicial crusade? or did you just make that one up? Im only hellbent on having a right to a normal family life and access to gainful employment. The CSA has deprived me of both.

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

Have you contacted your MP?

No. I understand an MP cannot claim damages, only a solicitor does that.

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

However if what Kelloggs is saying is correct and you can't live in the same address as your landlord then you will need to argue about the assessment done when you were working more hours. I seriously can't get my head round the fact that they won't do a reassessment.....but if you got your MP involved then this would get things moving and best of all - it's free

The machinery is in motion. I still have a case to build.

kelloggs36

That is correct - when did you ask for a reassessment based on the reduced income? Do you now have 3 payslips which show a reduced income figure? If so, then you should via your MP request another reassessment.

If however, you do overtime then it will be counted as income unless it is a one-off event.

Your child still needs to be supported whether you wish to do it or not, why are you so against paying any child support? Can you not come to a private agreement with your ex?

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

That has to be the most irresponsble and short-sighted comment ive seen on this forum. Borrowing my way out of this is what i have been doing for the last 18 months and its about to declare me bankrupt in a few weeks. Taking out yet more loans which I have no prospect of repaying is plain stupidity. It goes against all other advice including a solicitor.

The loan would have been for £39.99 and paid back at a couple of pounds a week. But thanks for throwing it back in my face.

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

Your are right, the PWC gets £7 a week. You are wrong because I still get £60.50 a week because its the minimum income the law says I have to live on. It cannot be deducted.

Fair enough. Do let us know how much your first giro payment is for though;)

kelloggs36

What is your protected income figure? If, what you say is correct then you would not be able to pay the full amount due to you falling below the protected income figure.