Is CSA1 an exact science? (if so where can I get a copy of the formula) -merged-

mothballed

kelloggs36 wrote: »

Have you formally appealled against the decision not to allow you housing costs?

Kel, I think you are indicating an appeal is more than walking into a courthouse filling in forms and waiting for a hearing date. Im curious because you ask have I formally appealed...

Is asking the CSA for an appeal the way to go with this? or is it something else?

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

This is causing a lot of friction between us. She is unpappy with the CSA interfering with her money matters and dictating how she should spend her earnings by saying she should pay more for our living arrangements if I return to work.

I'm not being funny here but you come with alot of baggage - financial and emotional. Now if she is a doctor she is clearly an intelligent woman and needs to realise sharpish that you are not a single man and that life is not going to be a simple union between you and her.

Someone said on here once something which made me smile - you take the cow, you take the cattle!!!!

Not that I am calling you a cow you understand but you get my drift. If she didn't want the hassle, financial or otherwise, then she could have walked away from you and certainly not got pregnant to you.

It may be that directly or indirectly she will be using some of her wage to supplement the fact you pay CSA. This could be as direct as money coming from her wage or her buying the wine that week as you are skint. But you are in this together and she can't - and shouldn't - forget you have responsibilites.

I'm sorry if this is out of line but everything you say about her is negative and pertaining to 'her' money. It stopped becoming a single person's income when she conceived to you.

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

Kel, I think you are indicating an appeal is more than walking into a courthouse filling in forms and waiting for a hearing date. Im curious because you ask have I formally appealed...

Is asking the CSA for an appeal the way to go with this? or is it something else?

Yes. You phone the CSA and they send an appeal form out. You send it back - recorded delivery 'natch - and you wait for a decision.

Nothing to do with courts. You are way ahead there! You say they are refusing to take into account your housing costs and your change of income. Have you got in touch with your MP about this? If you can prove your housing costs via a rent book and proof of income then they cannot legally not do anything about it.

Rather than thinking lawyers and courts etc, start on your own doorstep and get your MP involved.

LizzieS_2

mothballed wrote: »

Its official. Jobseekers allowance pays £60.50 a week after payments to PWC.

You will find the £60.50 is before child support comes out.

mothballed

LizzieS wrote: »

You will find the £60.50 is before child support comes out.

Two NRP's who were made redundant last summer both say they receive £121 a fortnight paid into their bank account. They get their rent and tax paid. They also get national insurance contrinutions and free medical prescriptions.

The benefit enquiry line a few minutes ago says £60.50 is the governments poverty threshold. Not even a court fine can deduct it unless the defendant consents to a deduction and forgoes his entitlement to receive an income that is compliant with that threshold.

mothballed

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

and she can't - and shouldn't - forget you have responsibilites.

I'm sorry if this is out of line but

My ex wife has a booked two weeks holiday to Cuba while my boys are dropped off at her parents while I am paying 53% of my 40 hours a week wages to the CSA and I cant even afford to buy a pair of shoes for work or pay my own council tax bill.

You are bang out of line.

Loopy_Girl

They can and do take monies from your benefit money to pay a contribution pf maintenance through CSA. If they couldn't then there would be an awful lot of people whacking themselves on benefit to avoid paying even a nominal sum.

There are plenty NRP's and NRPP's using this board that are paying money frm their benefit money.

It's the same if, for example, for some reason housing benefit arrears occured. Only a set amount can be taken (off the top of my head it's about £3 but don't quote me on that). Puts you below the limit but legally that can be taken.

As you have a live case and as you have no dependant children living in the house with you, then £7 a week (used to be £5 till October) will be taken. If you are looking for clarification then phone the CSA helpline 08457 13 6000.

Loopy_Girl

mothballed wrote: »

Two NRP's who were made redundant last summer both say they receive £121 a fortnight paid into their bank account.

Do they have dependant children in the house? My understanding (and experience as I am on CSA1) is that my ex put himself on benefits and as there is a dependamt child in the house then I could not claim that £5 - as it was then - from his JSA.

Sensemaya

mothballed wrote: »

My ex wife has a booked two weeks holiday to Cuba while my boys are dropped off at her parents So ? Is she not allowed a holiday? while I am paying 53% of my 40 hours a week wages to the CSA and I cant even afford to buy a pair of shoes for work or pay my own council tax bill.

You are bang out of line.

What I cannot understand, mothballed, is your partner is on a very good wage ( GP ) and you both are expecting another baby.

Why don't you just move in with her, become a house- husband...therefore re-assessment will be nil...get your partner to pay off the arrears instead of paying a lawyer's fees and it's all over with. The CSA case will still be open but no monies will be building up. You can pay back your partner when you can.

But you do still have responsibilites to your other children, whether their mum decides to go on holiday or not.

Your object is to get the CSA out of your lives.

I think you are making things very difficult for yourself.

kelloggs36

An appeal costs you nothing - you ask the CSA for an appeal form and they send it out as Loopy says. You provide the evidence, go to a hearing (if they reject the appeal in the first instance) and state your case. If you win, the date will be either be backdated (if you appealed within the timescales set out) or from the date you appealled. You have nothing to lose.

I would be very careful - what are the reasons you are packing in your job? CSA may well decide that you deprived yourself of the income and therefore refuse (which they are legally entitled to do) to reassess based on your unemployed status - thus arrears will continue to accrue and you end up in huge debt.