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  • KALASNO
    KALASNO Posts: 45 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    ALL known tests? it doesnt (try google!)

    Also, Whilst PCTOOLS does infact fail GRCs test, its only on the PING. It doesnt actually 'let anything through' (In fact EVERY port is stealthed)

    Not from 1.5hrs ago it failed on common ports, :(

    And all known tests that I know of from GRC ;)
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm

    GRC is good as a tester. But ALL firewalls have ways in one way or another (Which is why theyre CONSTANTLY updated (If theyre any good that is))
    :idea:
  • Conor_3
    Conor_3 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    This might seem an odd thing to ask. But can you point me to a webpage that does that? Its just ive been on countless known 'dodgy' pages and never once has noscript let me down.
    Noscript certainly stops redirects too.

    Trend Micro were themselves victims. It's done by using an iFrame injection:
    http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Virus-encyclopaedia-infects-visitors-with-malware/0,339028227,339286876,00.htm?feed=pt_redirection
  • Conor_3
    Conor_3 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    http://www.pcflank.com/art21.htm

    GRC is good as a tester. But ALL firewalls have ways in one way or another (Which is why theyre CONSTANTLY updated (If theyre any good that is))

    An interesting article pretty much saying software firewalls can be an utter waste of time:
    Software Firewalls: Made of Straw? Pt1
    http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1839

    Pt2
    http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1840

    Oh, and Steve Gibson aka GRC.com is a joke in the IT world.
    http://radsoft.net/news/roundups/grc/20060119,00.shtml
    What the World Thinks of Steve Gibson
    http://radsoft.net/news/roundups/grc/20060121,00.shtml
  • redux
    redux Posts: 22,976 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Conor wrote: »
    An interesting article pretty much saying software firewalls can be an utter waste of time:
    Software Firewalls: Made of Straw? Pt1
    ...

    What the World Thinks of Steve Gibson

    Correction: what a load of mostly anonymous pseudonyms think of Steve Gibson, with rather less objective analysis than they decry in him.

    I wouldn't set too much store by their allegations that Gibson's remarks on Zone Alarm were corruptly instigated by John McAfee, as Gibson's favourable reviews seem to start well before McAfee actually had any interest in the company. And even when he did invest in it, it wasn't in his sole ownership, as they lazily hint; would they dare to therefore suppose Intel to be equally corrupt? And is Gibson solely responsible for the popularity of Zone Alarm? Nonsense, most of its users have never heard of him.

    I'm not saying Gibson is a hero at the centre of the universe, but what a load of overblown and distorted guff, and all of it 3 to nearly 9 years old, by people still celebrating finding an issue in ZA years ago, and making unprovable accusations that weren't connected to quite the same issue anyway.


    As for the usefulness of software firewalls, it may be that the one on this particular PC is redundant at the moment, as the log shows no activity since August; perhaps the hackers haven't discovered this ISP's IP ranges yet.
  • redux wrote: »
    As for the usefulness of software firewalls, it may be that the one on this particular PC is redundant at the moment, as the log shows no activity since August; perhaps the hackers haven't discovered this ISP's IP ranges yet.

    ..or you're connected using a router so are hidden behind NAT anyway....
    Conor
    Unstoppable.....
  • thomas01155
    thomas01155 Posts: 2,382 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    The last time Sygate Personal Firewall was updated was October 2004
  • Conor wrote: »
    An interesting article pretty much saying software firewalls can be an utter waste of time:
    Software Firewalls: Made of Straw? Pt1
    http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1839

    Pt2
    http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1840

    Thanks for the links
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