Government giving out £70 xmas bonuses for the unemployed.. ????

mewbie_2

hamstercheeks wrote: »

and in case you are unaware Zavvi gift vouchers are worthless!

Hey Cleaver... this one could run and run. You do realise they are worthless, don't you? Oh my aching sides.

WTF?_2

hamstercheeks wrote: »

Carer? oh you're a carer? well I'm a part-time carer for my father and my sister - my father has cancer and my sister is in the secondary progressive stage of M.S., so yes I am speaking from first hand experience. My sister might have gotten extra money I am unsure as she hasn't told me but she totally struggles so much every day that getting an extra 20 quid is the absolute furthest thing in her mind.

life is getting easier for the scummy trash that work the system is what i was saying.

and yet my partner's ex who is being charged with benefit fraud gets an absolute fortune so yes I reiterate to you that yes it is getting easier

Yeah - this is the distinction we need to make.
Criticising the scroungers does not equate to opposing welfare.

It's about stopping people abusing welfare which will benefit both the taxpayer and the welfare system itself ... and consequently the people who genuinely need to rely on welfare.

nickmason

!!!!!!? wrote: »

Yeah - this is the distinction we need to make.
Criticising the scroungers does not equate to opposing welfare.

It's about stopping people abusing welfare which will benefit both the taxpayer and the welfare system itself ... and consequently the people who genuinely need to rely on welfare.

While at the same time making sure that the system is simple and easy to implement, so that we don't spend vast amounts of money managing it.

neverdespairgirl

hamstercheeks wrote: »

and in case you are unaware Zavvi gift vouchers are worthless!

I think it was a joke-let....

Cleaver

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I think it was a joke-let....

It wasn't. Every post of mine is a small nugget of serious economic majesty.

Honestly.

Cleaver

hamstercheeks wrote: »

Carer? oh you're a carer?

Well, no. Unless you count the one day every year or so after Mrs Cleaver's work's night out when I have to help her in to bed.

Having said that, how do you define carer?

hamstercheeks wrote: »

well I'm a part-time carer for my father and my sister - my father has cancer and my sister is in the secondary progressive stage of M.S., so yes I am speaking from first hand experience. My sister might have gotten extra money I am unsure as she hasn't told me but she totally struggles so much every day that getting an extra 20 quid is the absolute furthest thing in her mind.

life is getting easier for the scummy trash that work the system is what i was saying.

These comments are different to your first comment which didn't distinguish between people fraduantly claiming benefits and those not, so we're probably in vauge agreement.

Iny my worthless opinion if you are in favour of a benefits system (which most reasonable, caring people are) then you have to accept that a small percentage of people will take advantage of it. Again, just my worthless opinion, but I don't think that it has got any easier or more commonplace to trick the system - it's just become a lot more popular to state this as fact as we have newspapers such as The Daily Mail that fill the majority of their pages with anomalous stories about it.

It's the same as today's myths that crime is worse than ever, teenagers are worse than ever and football isn't what it was.

hamstercheeks wrote: »

PS in case you are wondering no I don't claim any money for caring for my sister and father.

Why not? You should do. It's one direction I like to see my tax money heading.

Mrs_Bones

Thank you Paulgonnabedebtfree, I'll look into that Freecycle thing, I don't have transport myself but have friends who i'm sure would help me out if need be.

Thank you also Strapped, unfortunely I'm nowhere near Devon but thanks for thought.

hamstercheeks_2

Cleaver wrote: »

Well, no. Unless you count the one day every year or so after Mrs Cleaver's work's night out when I have to help her in to bed.

Having said that, how do you define carer?



These comments are different to your first comment which didn't distinguish between people fraduantly claiming benefits and those not, so we're probably in vauge agreement.

Iny my worthless opinion if you are in favour of a benefits system (which most reasonable, caring people are) then you have to accept that a small percentage of people will take advantage of it. Again, just my worthless opinion, but I don't think that it has got any easier or more commonplace to trick the system - it's just become a lot more popular to state this as fact as we have newspapers such as The Daily Mail that fill the majority of their pages with anomalous stories about it.

It's the same as today's myths that crime is worse than ever, teenagers are worse than ever and football isn't what it was.



Why not? You should do. It's one direction I like to see my tax money heading.

i have no problem with those who justify benefits i do however have a problem with the 'can work but refuse to work' crew who think the world owes them.

as for defining a carer, hmm i would say someone who cares enough about the person to help them maintain a decent living, but according to carers uk:


Carers UK has defined carers as people who "provide unpaid care by looking after an ill, frail or disabled family member, friend or partner". Adults who act as carers for both their children and their parents are frequently called the Sandwich generation.
Around half of all carers are effectively excluded from paid employment through the heavy demands and responsibilities of caring for a vulnerable relative or friend. Their work has huge economic and social impact.