The 'complete this challenge' challenge...suitable for all!

Different_Corner

Great post cheri, I love this sort of discussion.

Coming from a Catholic Father, Jewish Mother (neither practising, but Grandparents were) I think I have been allowed to make my own decision, and that decision is respect those that do, live and let live.
Having said that I'm very aware of those that I have lost playing a big part in my life, so I guess I'm veering to something spiritual but haven't taken it too seriously yet.

MrsMoo2U

I too love this kind of discussion. It challenges my beliefs and makes me think more. I was married for a long time to a devout catholic who simply refused to even discuss the possibility of anything else. We have been lucky to have parents that gave us our own space and time and the wings to fly. I dont have children but I always believed that as a parent this is the single most wonderful thing that you can do for a child and I am sorry that I never understood that in time to thank my parents and grandparents for giving me that opportunity.

Different_Corner

What's that verse, people come in to your life for a reason ?

Sometimes it's not clear why, and it hurts when they leave, but I think it has some truth to it.

cha97michelle

Gosh scrooge. Your head is so full. It won't do the rest of your plans any good to be awake then. I really hope you got some rest after that and it helped you to get your thoughts out there.

I was probably awake then, but DS1 was being a real tinker. He should be and is exhausted, but we had a wet bed at 1am, and then he seemed to be in and out for the rest of the night. I am rather tired, but i am going to do my best to get on and tidy the house a bit for the in-laws. My main focus is going to be windows, dusting and floors. I also need to do something with the ironing pile, but it can always go on our bed for tomorrow. I need to remedy it before next week though as they are stopping for about 4 nights so it isn't going to be easy to hide it.


I've rejoined flylady on old style. I used to be really good at it, gave it up when i went back to work after the kids, and since then i have had the problems with depression. I now feel in a great position and able to do it, so i am going to just get on.

MrsMoo2U

scrooge2008 wrote: »

Thanks again for your extremely helpful posts.


I can't sleep, so I need to type out my thoughts. Always a good way to exercise those ghosts

It just occured to me that my Grandmother, on my dad's side, was a well known Fortune Teller and medium, in Blackpool, in her time and her daughter a faith healer. Funnily enough one of Grandma's most regular clients, and I can picture him now, arriving at her door, was the Catholic priest. They would have a cup of tea together and she would read his tea leaves. sounds like my Nan and my Mum. Nan read tealeaves a lot, Mum was a faith healer and had an indian spirit. Have to admit I found it funny most of the time. Now I think there is something to intuition

My mother, who loved everybody, couldn't bear my Grandma, as she believed she was involved with the Occult. My Dad insisted that Grandma could visit, and when she did she would merrily read my tea leaves, talk to me about the Indian spirit guide who visited her each night, and point to grandad, who was now a blackbird that used to follow us around the garden faithfully

When she left, my mum would burn lots of stuff, so that there was nothing of the occult left in the house. Any presents from my faith healing aunt or grandma were burnt and I remember watching a beautiful porcelaine doll in a red costume being cremated and another time a lot of expensive jewellery given to me by grandma, going down a drain. That is so sad, I often find that people who behave in this way do so because they are afraid that there faith may waiver should they take the time to listen. This was certainly the case with my ex as he was afraid of change too

Of course this would make my dad incredibly angry and he would make his own bonfire and put her bible and books on it.

You were blessed to have been allowed to make your own choices Cheri, because I look at my sister now and she can't move on because she is still not sure if she is thinking her own thoughts or my mothers.I do realise that now. However I also believe that some of my thoughts and beliefs come about because I am sensitive to the world around me, I am fiercely independant and I question everything. It took me many years to understand myself. My sister on the other hand lived in my Mums shadow and now she is gone my sister is lost. I feel so much for her but she needs to find her own way

But I am blessed too, because all of the people I am referring to, only ever showed me love, and I was precious to them all. So I have always known how to love and be loved.

My mum and dad both had to be 100% right and their personal philosophy's could not accept any other way. But I now think that they were the thesis and the antithesis and my way will be, when I'm sure of it, a synthesis.I love this way of looking at things. It is so true.

I've done a lot of release crying recently, and I never cry, that is why I think you need to be in a good place before you can do this kind of thing. another trueism. Unless you are strong in mind then the way forward can be so tough. I admire that you recognise this but more I am in awe that you are taking steps to move forward. There are very few people in the world who consciously set out on a journey to find answers.

I feel like the people on that tv show that go in search of their ancestors and learn a lot about themselves xxxx Night, night. Thanks again for being there.

I watched a few of those and I completely understand how it can be an emotional experience to find out how your ancestors lived. If you have no compassion for those that went before as well as those that live today then how can you make the most of your own life.

Hope that you managed to catch up with your sleep and that the thoughts have slowed to a quick march rather than a mad jog.

MrsMoo2U

Different_Corner wrote: »

What's that verse, people come in to your life for a reason ?

Sometimes it's not clear why, and it hurts when they leave, but I think it has some truth to it.

Is this the one?

People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.

When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that
Person..

When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need
You have expressed.

They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with
Guidance and support,

To aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually.

They may seem like a godsend and they are.

They are there for the reason you need them to be.

Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time,

This person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an
End.

Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away.

Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand.

What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire
Fulfilled, their work is done.

The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has
Come to share, grow or learn.

They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh.

They may teach you something you have never done.

They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy.

Believe it, it is real. But only for a season.

LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons,

Things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional
Foundation.

Your job is to accept the lesson,

Love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other
Relationships and areas of your life.

It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

Different_Corner

That's the one cheri. TY, think it can relate to lots in my life.

Scrooge, glad you've got it all out, it will be good to reflect on it as you progress, as I'm sure you will. Never met anyone with such sheer determination about the things they want - and need - to do.

DeeDeeinDooDoo

Hi Scrooge,

You are right I have come back, and straight to you...I have had a strange summer and now know what I need to do...I will miss you and hope also to meet you one day...we will know when it happens...take care and thanks for all the help you have given me.

D

wilf55

xxx thank you for everything

wilf55

and he has made the england team, he plays on tuesdayxx