Thankyou to Mr Bluebadge Holder.

zoelouise88

Barneysmom wrote: »

No wonder there are so many overweight people in the country, people can't be bothered to walk 100 yards any more.

the mother & baby spaces are wider to make it easier to get in and out (if youve had kids you will no to get a babyseat out the door has to be wide open - in the normal spaces there is nowhere near enough space), the distance doesnt matter to me, even if they were a few 100 yards futher i would still use them.

Anyway in my opinion the spaces are there for a reason therefore disabled should only be used by the disabled and the m&b should only be used by people with children.

bestpud

zoelouise88 wrote: »

the mother & baby spaces are wider to make it easier to get in and out (if youve had kids you will no to get a babyseat out the door has to be wide open - in the normal spaces there is nowhere near enough space), the distance doesnt matter to me, even if they were a few 100 yards futher i would still use them.

Anyway in my opinion the spaces are there for a reason therefore disabled should only be used by the disabled and the m&b should only be used by people with children.

There is enough space - you just have to be more careful. It is not impossible!

If it is, the how do you manage when parking in places that don't provide P&B spaces?

poet123

SomeBozo wrote: »

What everyone forgets is its up to the owner of the car park to organise their car park and enforce it as they want.

If a supermarket wants to put "Parent & Child" sports near the entrance then its up to them.

Its not for individuals to choose that its a right or a privilege!

I agree it is up to them,but it is due to pressure from parents who want enhanced rights over your average shopper. In your niche area you are probably quite right to provide these extra spaces,as if your target market is predominantly young parents you are giving a service(or cleverly,and manipulatively using pyschology by pandering to a whim)depending on how you look at it.:D

Supermarkets however have amuch larger and diverse target market,which is why they pay lip service;) to the issue but dont actually enforce it

Bozo

So they keepthe parents happy whilst not actually really doing anything,because your average shopper knows that if they park there,nothing can be done about it. Quite a clever placebo really imo.

bestpud

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

As I'm feeling hungover and contrary I thought I'd make a point against disabled parking outside large supermarkets and shopping malls. (And I do this as someone who's married to a blue badge holder.) I often wonder about all these people who can only walk a couple of yards to the shop entrance without pain and difficulty and yet somehow they then manage to walk around the shops themselves without too much difficulty.

Strange, don't you think?

I have a few beefs with the 'legitimate' usage of blue badges but when I have aired them on here I have been shot down in flames!

First on the list is always: 'Would you like my disability?'

Closely followed by: 'You are just jealous because you think we are getting something you are not!'

I may add it was when my nan had one that I realised what they allow in terms of parking, and how open they are to abuse.

Emotive subject I guess.

poet123

I agree the BB scheme is open to abuse. You can see that clearly when they have a crackdown,lots of users seemingly well used to using the badge even though it was not their badge,and the relevant person was not present.

When my mother had one,I often used to drop her at the haidressers and wait in the car,I was never challenged but it would have been easy to abuse the system by dropping a friend or other relative off and still use the badge. There were no photos on the badges then though,so it has improved since then.

zoelouise88

bestpud wrote: »

There is enough space - you just have to be more careful. It is not impossible!

If it is, the how do you manage when parking in places that don't provide P&B spaces?

I did not say it was impossible but it does help, its not just about parents being careful its about other drivers to, some people park to close. The one time at Asda i was parked in a normal space and when i came out a car had parked to close i couldnt even squeeze in the gap let alone fit the carseat through, i then had to wait for the other dirver to return as there was no way i was going to put the car seat down on the floor to squeeze through and reverse.

savemoney

How do you know the relevant person is present. The blue badge on one side has a photo, this is not shown. Therefore you base your assumption on what your eyes? Disability is not always seen it can be hidden

poet123

savemoney wrote: »

How do you know the relevant person is present. The blue badge on one side has a photo, this is not shown. Therefore you base your assumption on what your eyes? Disability is not always seen it can be hidden

I was referring to the dodgers that are caught when there is a crackdown. I watched a trap on tv a few weeks ago and the excuse from those caight was that they were on an errand for the badge holder and did not realise the holder had to be present,merely though that the errand needed to relate to them.

savemoney

So what do you suggest if there are no blue badge spaces left which is often the case where I am. Shall the disabled either wait, go else where or do without?

My local supermarket allowed disabled to park in P&C spaces which are more usually plenty of spaces left, but rarely is there and disabled spaces.

I have seen P&C spaces abuse by drivers who dont have children with them, or the kids are much older greater than 13+

Not aimed at any particularly but disabled people have enough problems in life a little compassion from some parties wouldn't go a miss. One day you or I may have a disability, you never know

zoelouise88 wrote: »

the mother & baby spaces are wider to make it easier to get in and out (if youve had kids you will no to get a babyseat out the door has to be wide open - in the normal spaces there is nowhere near enough space), the distance doesnt matter to me, even if they were a few 100 yards futher i would still use them.

Anyway in my opinion the spaces are there for a reason therefore disabled should only be used by the disabled and the m&b should only be used by people with children.

EDIT (Not aimed at any particularly) I park my car at end of the car park at the furthest point because I am sick of dumbos who hit my car with there doors fully open. When I open my door I hold on to the door, not fling it open like some people do. I occasionally take my mother shopping who has a blue badge but I can rarely find a space.

savemoney

Well I agree the dodgers and those who clearly are not disabled or coming up with all sorts of excuses even though they are trying to pull a fast one, should be fined

poet123 wrote: »

I was referring to the dodgers that are caught when there is a crackdown. I watched a trap on tv a few weeks ago and the excuse from those caight was that they were on an errand for the badge holder and did not realise the holder had to be present,merely though that the errand needed to relate to them.