Bailiffs to be allowed to use force on debtors.

mewbie_2

Cat695 wrote: »

2....your not a man till you've at least had two ex wives.....

Does someone else's wife count?

Before anyone jumps on my back I am asking for a friend.

Wicked_witch

Generali wrote: »

Unfortunately I am unable to thank you twice.

I appreciate you thanking me once! Almost makes up for the hassle

jamescredmond

brightonman123 wrote: »

these are PROPOSED laws, which I hope get short shrift by the appropriate committees / in the Lords etc.

btw, wouldnt breaking in etc be a direct breach of the human rights act (right to privacy and enjoyment of your home..?) -

i could see someine inside defending themselves with appropriate force, if felt in fear fore their lives.. (remember that farmer that was eventually cleared of shooting an intruder?)

good point - these are only proposals and, given the obvious legal difficilties, probably allready dead in the water.
nonetheless, I never fail to be astounded at how the People's Party have fallen into the habit of chipping away at civ. liberties. DNA database, 42-day detention, a serious cut in legal aid funding, a demand for ever more personal info via the census form,etc.

and now this under consideration.

Darth_Marty

bubblesmoney wrote: »

guess people might buy crow bars for their gardens but instead use it to pick the nuts off any bailiff who broke in as they feared for theirs and familys life from people "impersonating" bailiffs and trying to burgle places. probably they might have a reasonable defence in using the crowbar to protect themselves

Thats an extremely good point about the bailiff impersonators, upon thinking about this a little more im absolutely 100% certain that this could never come into force, there are so many things that could and would go wrong its untrue, still scary that the powers that be even think !!!! like this may help.

mr.broderick

!!!!!!? wrote: »

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5375668.ece

Hmm, perhaps the government could send a few bailiffs around with their new powers to the houses of the management boards of the UK banks and repossess their goods to put towards the likely hundreds of billions of quid (maybe over a trillion) that us taxpayers will be forking out because of the debts of their banks....?

No? Didn't think so. But if you're Joe Soap expect to be strongarmed.

I now have a wwII pistol locked in a drawer in my bedroom, the key is on a chain around my neck. If someone burst through my front door and i was at home with my young children i would calmly walk upstairs open the drawer walk back downstairs and empty the magazine on them.

olly300

Just as I thought this is old news - http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/index/pressoffice/press_index/press_20070305.htm I am sure there was a consultation on it and I took part because I lived in a house where my housemate had a trip from the bailiffs about a debt she had actually been chasing up the original company to pay.

mewbie_2

mr.broderick wrote: »

I now have a wwII pistol locked in a drawer in my bedroom, the key is on a chain around my neck. If someone burst through my front door and i was at home with my young children i would calmly walk upstairs open the drawer walk back downstairs and empty the magazine on them.

Hmm, like the idea (vengeance, die hard, etc.) but seriously if you're in the front room say and guys burst in, how are you going to be allowed to leave the room to walk upstairs, etc? "Excuse me while I collect my huge wallet from the upstairs room" perhaps?

My preferred option is to say "leave us alone and you can take anything you want". After all its insured.

wageslave

mewbie wrote: »

Hmm, like the idea (vengeance, die hard, etc.) but seriously if you're in the front room say and guys burst in, how are you going to be allowed to leave the room to walk upstairs, etc? "Excuse me while I collect my huge wallet from the upstairs room" perhaps?

My preferred option is to say "leave us alone and you can take anything you want". After all its insured.

I still like the idea:rolleyes:

dopester

jamescredmond wrote: »

I never fail to be astounded at how the People's Party have fallen into the habit of chipping away at civ. liberties. DNA database, 42-day detention, a serious cut in legal aid funding, a demand for ever more personal info via the census form,etc.

and now this under consideration.

That is because the desire to exert control of society is in their heart - in my opinion.

I listened to some student intellectual-Labour types discussing the Dewhoff System the other evening.

Under it debtors and criminals would be injected with a range of different illnesses and disease.

A mixture of diseases even, including some very uncomfortable, disfiguring and painful ones, depending on the nature of their debts or crimes. Life threatening diseases for very serious crimes, with the possibility of a wonder cure if willing to give full co-operation. For example.. when a rogue financier is willing to return much of his gains to the state.

Obviously though, for the lower/working classes, more potent strains of disease to account for their hardier constitutions.

epz_2

dopester wrote: »

That is because the desire to exert control of society is in their heart - in my opinion.

I listened to some student intellectual-Labour types discussing the Dewhoff System the other evening.

Under it debtors and criminals would be injected with a range of different illnesses and disease.

A mixture of diseases even, including some very uncomfortable, disfiguring and painful ones, depending on the nature of their debts or crimes. Life threatening diseases for very serious crimes, with the possibility of a wonder cure if willing to give full co-operation. For example.. when a rogue financier is willing to return much of his gains to the state.

Obviously though, for the lower/working classes, more potent strains of disease to account for their hardier constitutions.

i need to move to a country with lots of guns, stuff like that becomes harder to implement when people have a means to defend themselves.

weird thing is i get called a fascist for suggesting that government is inherently corrupt and incompetent and that it should but the hell out except for very special instances like to set/enforce the law and military services.