Incapacity Assessment

Zziggi

freebie_junkie wrote:

absolutely! anyone with an anexiety related condition will worry themselves iller over it. :mad:

...like my OH who heard about this on the radio and has been worrying himself silly all last night, unable to sleep etc etc. No amount of reassurance would put his mind at rest. I keep telling him its the people on the boarderline of IB/JSA that have most to worry. Still this doesn't alleviate his worry. Those on IB who are really ill will just get iller.

Freebie_junkie made a good point, what they gonna do - stick people on JSA for life? That'll only make the unemployment figures look worse, which is something no party in government want. I wonder if all these IB reforms are really aimed at showing the working population that Labour are tough on "benefit scroungers" 'cos nobody in work likes to think they are working to support idle layabouts.

HOLsale

Zziggi wrote:

.... I wonder if all these IB reforms are really aimed at showing the working population that Labour are tough on "benefit scroungers" 'cos nobody in work likes to think they are working to support idle layabouts.

i know, why do you think so many people complain so vociferously about gov't officials? :mad: :rotfl:

freebie_junkie

Zziggi wrote:

...like my OH who heard about this on the radio and has been worrying himself silly all last night, unable to sleep etc etc. No amount of reassurance would put his mind at rest. I keep telling him its the people on the boarderline of IB/JSA that have most to worry. Still this doesn't alleviate his worry. Those on IB who are really ill will just get iller.

Freebie_junkie made a good point, what they gonna do - stick people on JSA for life? That'll only make the unemployment figures look worse, which is something no party in government want. I wonder if all these IB reforms are really aimed at showing the working population that Labour are tough on "benefit scroungers" 'cos nobody in work likes to think they are working to support idle layabouts.

yeah it probably just to mek ethem look good. i mean, they cant totally take away your money unless you have a job so its JSA isnt it? and if youre not properly fit to work no one will hire you. the unemployment figures will sky rocket!

krisskross

I think that one day a Government will totally stop some benefits or will bring in a system similar to that in America whereby you are entitled to a certain amount based on what you have contributed and once you have used that up you are on your own until you have more in your personal pot.
Gordon Brown is going to find himself very short of cash soon, and unless he decides to bleed the poor taxpayers even more then the Government will need to make some unpopular decisions about welfare benefits, theoretically where there is huge spending there could also be huge savings.

ianian99

freebie_junkie wrote:

thyed end up putting unfit people on JSA sendign them off to interviews when they have no chance of getting a job "yeh by teh way i have hygiene OCD sdo cant clean up anything and dont really want to touch much, is that ok?" so theyll jsut be on JSA for life instead!

Your missing the point if someone is fit for work then they should work not be put on JSA for life. People ythat are GENUINELY unfit for work won't be able to work.

By the way since you mention it I think that you are fit for work, you just QUOTE - "DONT WANT TO TOUCH MUCH"!! Oh except for bargains in the shops, you dont mind touching those. So you can spend all day going shopping for bargains (EVEN 9 BOOTS IN ONE DAY!!!) then spend the rest of the day selling it on ebay but your too ill to work? Please explain again why you CAN'T work.
Ithink its people like you that are going to cause all the genuine people on the sick so much greif. Do you tell your advisor or interviewer that you can go shopping all day and that you sell loads of stuff on ebay? I bet you don't.
if you can do all that then shouldn't be on the sick, you shouldn't even get jsa.

ianian99

Zziggi wrote:

...like my OH who heard about this on the radio and has been worrying himself silly all last night, unable to sleep etc etc. No amount of reassurance would put his mind at rest. I keep telling him its the people on the boarderline of IB/JSA that have most to worry. Still this doesn't alleviate his worry. Those on IB who are really ill will just get iller.

Freebie_junkie made a good point, what they gonna do - stick people on JSA for life? That'll only make the unemployment figures look worse, which is something no party in government want. I wonder if all these IB reforms are really aimed at showing the working population that Labour are tough on "benefit scroungers" 'cos nobody in work likes to think they are working to support idle layabouts.

It's not the governments fault that they are talking about these reforms its the people who are totally able to work but are abusing the system to get more money than if they were on the dole that are to blaim, its putting everyone on the sick in a bad light.
Off the top of my head i could probably name a dozen people that are blagging it on the sick , couple of hundred pounds a week and a new car and theres nowt wrong with them.
These are the epople the government are targeting NOT people genuinely too ill to work.

TAZ

ianian99 wrote:

Your missing the point if someone is fit for work then they should work not be put on JSA for life. People ythat are GENUINELY unfit for work won't be able to work.

By the way since you mention it I think that you are fit for work, you just QUOTE - "DONT WANT TO TOUCH MUCH"!! Oh except for bargains in the shops, you dont mind touching those. So you can spend all day going shopping for bargains (EVEN 9 BOOTS IN ONE DAY!!!) then spend the rest of the day selling it on ebay but your too ill to work? Please explain again why you CAN'T work.
Ithink its people like you that are going to cause all the genuine people on the sick so much greif. Do you tell your advisor or interviewer that you can go shopping all day and that you sell loads of stuff on ebay? I bet you don't.
if you can do all that then shouldn't be on the sick, you shouldn't even get jsa.

well, it is people like you that really rile me, you do not know anything about freebie junkie, you do not know how much time and routine she has to go through to get on the computer in the first place or the shops etc,
my husband has borderline personality disorder with Paranoia , he looks fine but can't cope with been in a room with more than a couple of people, he was told by job centre to sign himself sick because he attacked someone in a workplace because of his Paranoia , do you think he likes not been able to go to watch his son play football in a cup match. we never go out because cinemas have lots of people so do bars.
i hope you never have to deal with this kind of illness because if you do then maybe you might just see it from the other side

TAZ

ianian99 wrote:

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Off the top of my head i could probably name a dozen people that are blagging it on the sick , couple of hundred pounds a week and a new car and theres nowt wrong with them.
These are the epople the government are targeting NOT people genuinely too ill to work.

id like to know how you work that figure out, DLA at the most is about £60

ianian99

TAZ wrote:

well, it is people like you that really rile me, you do not know anything about freebie junkie, you do not know how much time and routine she has to go through to get on the computer in the first place or the shops etc,
my husband has borderline personality disorder with Paranoia , he looks fine but can't cope with been in a room with more than a couple of people, he was told by job centre to sign himself sick because he attacked someone in a workplace because of his Paranoia , do you think he likes not been able to go to watch his son play football in a cup match. we never go out because cinemas have lots of people so do bars.
i hope you never have to deal with this kind of illness because if you do then maybe you might just see it from the other side

I know from her posts that she has no problems getting round the shops for bargains and as she says in her post I DONT REALLY WANT TO TOUCH ANYTHING, I dont really want to work but I do

ianian99

TAZ wrote:

id like to know how you work that figure out, DLA at the most is about £60

couple down the road, both on sick get £290 per week and a new car, not ill BLAGGERS